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My thoughts on Disventure Camp Season 4 Episode 10. ”Spoilers!
*Anastassia questioning why Lynda voted out Marissa when she was the only one standing up for Lynda was a bit insensitive in a way. Marissa was standing up to ANASTASSIA for Lynda the majority of the time. Natalia and Isabel were iffy letting her join, but they never outwardly expressed it to her and caused conflict. It makes sense sheāll want to leave an alliance where one member hates her.
*Lyndaās confessional was kinda sad with her saying she doesnāt follow her husband here and sheās finally in control. It explains why she acts the way she does. Her rude and bossy personality is a way to make herself feel in control of situations because she doesnāt have that control at home. She wants to prove her worth, which is a bit similar to Anastassia in a way.
*I really liked the scene between Lynda and Richard. I think that scene made Richard realize why Lynda said that ignorant comment to him in Episode 4.
*Since Lynda wants more for herself, I think she'll divorce her husband and become a teacher when the showās over. Her being a teacher feels fitting.
*Was Lynda making her pie awful on purpose? She had a grin when peeling potatoes and also when her team lost. Plus, her being upset at Richard for losing the challenge seemed like she was acting, but it kinda seems like she wasnāt at the same time. But it could also have been to represent that sheās a good cook, just bad at leading people. I think the reason sheās bad at leading people is that she commonly follows her husband, and she attempts to copy him. Plus, sheās usually a follower.
*I headcanon Lynda as romance and s** repulsed aroace. She mentioned that boys only want one thing and itās disgusting. In this episode, she got disgusted when Zaid and Ivy were making out. This can also tie into her arc. We know she lives a life where traditionally is valued. I think she never wanted to get married and only did so because it was expected of her to get married and start a family as a woman. She can talk to Richard about her marriage and also add on that she never had feelings for anyone. Richard could guide her into figuring out sheās aroace.
*Richard being mad at Natalia feels weird. He seemed so petty this episode and he doesnāt strike me as the person to be petty or hold grudges. Itās a bit hypocritical for him to appreciate Natalia for trusting her gut, but getting mad when she does so. I know heās mad because she let her anger(?) get in the way of trusting Spencer, but heās also letting his anger get in the way of trusting Natalia further. If he really appreciated Natalia for trusting her gut, he wouldnāt get mad when her instincts go against his. Richard also told her that it takes time for trust to be earned, but he wasnāt angry at Logan for the Ted blinside, and forgave Lynda after her apology for her ignorant remark.
*The scene where Richard was mad at Natalia, and Natalia questioning how she can earn back his trust reminded me of the Spencer and Jade scene in Episode 6. One person betrays their alliance member(s), the person who got betrayed is angry, and the betrayer feels guilty and attempts to earn back the otherās trust.
*It seems like Richard started trusting Lynda more because of that conversationāwith him being able to see her vulnerable side. Richard knows Lynda's good deep down. She's just influenced by her awful home life. I can see why he trusts Lynda, but why not Natalia anymore?
*Spencer was taken aback when Logan referred to him as a friend. I think he doesn't have many, or any friends at all in his life. It explains why he got teary eyed when he thought Jade would still vote for him and also why he was taken aback by Diego appreciating his presence.
*It kinda sounded like Spencer and Logan were flirting in that scene. I mean, itās not flirting per se, but Spencer spoke in a playful manner towards Logan, and he never acted like that towards other people, not even with Jade or Diego. He also relaxed his eyes in that scene, and I noticed he only tends to do that around Jade and Diego (people he cares about).
*The conversation between Logan and Richard about following their hearts made me realize something. Spencer also has a storyline about following/not following his heart. I think there would be a scene in which Logan and Spencer open up to each other. Logan would talk about his queer-ness and how heāll follow what his heart is telling him, despite what people think. Spencer would relate this with Diego. Realizing that his heart is telling him to get together with him, but his brain is saying no because of the competition and his past relationship issues. Heāll learn to accept what his heart is telling him, realizing that Diego would not be like his previous partner. Spencer and Diego would then end up together. I would prefer if Spencer does not end up with anyone, and continues to do some healing alone, but my prediction feels like a very ONC thing to do. And it can be a good opportunity to show that some people can still date in a relationship despite having relationship issues. Their partner could help them with the healing process.
*Zaid and Ivy were doing yoga. I guess Diego had an influence on them.
*Ivy was so freaky this episode š. She keeps talking to Zaid with lustful eyes, and keeps making dirty jokes with him, despite saying she needed to separate her feelings from the competition.
*I noticed the WLM couple lasted longer than the MLM and WLW. I remember the majority of the fandom was talking about how they did not want gay couples as the focus, only referring to MLM. The writers listened but also took account of the WLW couple and eliminated Marissa early.
*In that kiss scene with Zaid and Ivy, I thought Logan was going to puke on them and ruin the moment. And did they start making out or something? Because why did they reach the floor and why were some of the others weirded out.
*The interaction between Jade and Isabel was really wholesome. It's probably one of my favorite moments from the season! I like how we get to see their characters shine. Isabel is a very social person and wants to connect with people, so she tries to get to know Jade on a deeper level. I know she isn't being friendly with Jade for strategy purposes, but it's very strategic. If you form a close bond with your ally, it's unlikely they'll betray you. Jadeās awkward short responses of just saying āNoā, and not elaborating until asked upon further was so relatable. She only opened up when Isabel specifically asked what the sweater meant, compared to Isabel just guessing the meaning. I think Jade isn't used to people caring and interacting with her. Given her past, I actually think she never had any friends. The writers did a good job portraying this aspect of people in Jade.
*I love Jade's reasoning to win. The fact that she's so strategic in her gameplay while wanting to win for some noble cause is unique. We usually see people be strategic because they want to win for themselves.
*Jade saying that she never saw Spencer as a friend hurt me. I really liked the duo. Itās sad how she just views him as an alliance member, while Spencer genuinely sees her as a friend. Itās kinda obvious sheāll feel that way because Spencer seems like the type to not talk to anyone on a personal level, and sheāll probably not open up to people unless they ask. Spencer also strikes me as someone who would refer to anyone he has talked to for a few times as his friend due to him not having many friends in his life (assuming). But, I assumed Jade and Spencer had conversed about their lives with each other and it got cut off for screen time purposes. Tristan has referred to them as best friends, and why would they say that if those two havenāt conversed before?
*That makes me wonder if Jade was being genuine about her reason to team swap Spencer in Episode 8. Like what if she just swapped him because she was tired of his presence.
*Jadeās voice actor has gotten better. Sheās able to maintain a monotone voice but speaks with some expression into it. I can hear this when Jade tells Zaid that Ivy has a soft spot for him and the rest of the dialogue in that scene.
*I like how Disventure Camp shows how people feel about religion differently, since people do have different experiences with it. We had Fiore who had a negative view of the religion her parents had. She was forced to go to a Catholic boarding school, and she hated it. She also has a belief that God made her into an unlovable child. And now we have Isabel, she was a party girl and dr** addict. Iām guessing she went to a Catholic rehab center and found her faith there. Religion is a place of comfort for her because it managed to get her out of a bad place.
*I love how when Isabel talks about things she loves, such as her religion and Argentina, her eyes sparkle and joy is present in her face.
*I wonder why Isabel had to leave Argentina. Was it related to the country itself or her own life?
*If I was in the cooking challenge, I wouldāve made a water pie. Those arenāt filling and can probably be consumed quickly.
*The ingredient table shouldāve been more messy or bigger. Itās weird that everyone was searching for ingredients like detectives. The ingredients were like 2 feet away from them. And how did they spend 30 minutes looking for ingredients?
*I love how Logan was given a disgusting looking pie but was still happy to eat it.
*How did Ivy scarf down that pie so quickly, compared to Logan whoās a bulky jock.
*That moment of Ivy not wanting to eat the pie messily because itāll get over her seems insignificant, but it shows that she cares about having a positive presentation of herself, and probably cares what others think of her.
*Ivy thanking Jade for her confessional was kinda weird. All Jade told her was that she shouldnāt eat with her hands.
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My thoughts on Disventure Camp Season 4 Episode 9. Most of these are just me yapping about Spencer because heās my favorite character out of this cast. 3 weeks late because I was too busy to finish this. Leaving in my predictions, even though they got jossed next episode (I already typed them down directly after seeing the episode but I just needed to type down the rest of my thoughts).
*During the monster story, did Richard describe the bog monster based off Spencer? Or was it just a coincidence? Either way, itās pretty funny.
*Since Spencer was described as a bog monster, I thought there may be some hidden symbolism in the comparison. Bog monsters apparently represent deceits in the unknown and mischief, and that does sound like Spencer alright. But I honestly thought there would be more depth to the comparison.
*The scene of Lynda, Natalia, and Marissa running to the rest of the team to ask them where Isabel went seemed a bit weird. I feel like it wouldāve been better if they went running to tell them that Isabel was swapped rather than them not knowing. Like how did they all just happen to wake up in that moment, the second Isabel was swapped?
*Spencer sent Isabel over to give Jade an ally. He couldāve kept Isabel on his team for blackmail purposes and give himself an ally, but he chose to help Jade instead. Thatās cute how much he cares for her.
*Iām sensing a Zaid and Isabel duo. Zaid was the first to greet Isabel, he was friendly with her throughout the episode, and both were the last members on the carousel.
*Jade and Isabel are already becoming allies. Those two along with Benji and Hannah plan on eliminating Ivy and Zaid next. I can see Ivy being eliminated next episode because her arc seems to be over and I think the red team would lose in that episode. I feel like Isabel would try to play both sides of the team. Ivy and Zaid would tell her to vote for Jade, while the others tell her to vote for Ivy. She throws her vote and votes for someone like Benji; doing so, so she can remain on friendly terms with both sides, knowing that the others voting for Ivy would still get her eliminated because itās 3-2-1 vote. But her doing this would make her seem untrustworthy to Jade, and I donāt think sheāll want to lose an ally this early in the game.
**After Ivy, I canāt see Zaid going out next. Zaidās been kind of in the background for the first 9 episodes and his character just seems to be Ivyās boyfriend so far. I think theyāre saving his character in the future. Since I believe Zaid and Isabel would become close, maybe she would betray her alliance with Jade to save Zaid. The thing is, I canāt see Isabel doing that as I feel like she wouldnāt mind backstabbing her friends for her benefit.
*How come Isabel said āFrom what I gather, probably not wellā when Hannah asked her how she thinks the blue team is handling Spencerās arrival. She was not even there to gather any information about their dynamic, and doesnāt know Spencerās personality.
*Marissa points out that Anastassia has trouble trusting people, and Anastassia agrees, which surprised me because I thought she would get mad at someone pointing out a flaw she has. Sheās self-aware of this aspect of her.
*Marissa laters asks Anastassia if she trusted her, and Anastassia was hesitant and never gave an answer (in that moment though, as she later said she does). In a previous episode, she mentioned she trusts Marissa more than anyone so I wonder why she is hesitant to say it. Maybe she still had her guard up and doubts about their relationship. Marissa doesnāt get offended, and instead takes her to a place to have fun, which was cute of her.
*The scene of Logan wiping Spencerās eye was lowkey cute. I ship them, but in a fanon sense. I like their fan art and fan interpretations, but I would not like for them to be a couple in the show. People are theorizing that theyāll get together, but I donāt think so. Logan blushing when Natalia teased him about liking Spencer is probably because he gets flustered with topics around his sexuality, and you can also find people attractive without having any romantic feelings. Even if he did have a crush, that doesnāt mean theyāll get together. Though, he might develop a crush on Spencer later on, and that can be used for Loganās arc. But Iām 100% sure they wonāt end up a couple. Adding on, Diegoās existence is very important for Spencerās arc, and Spencer still has feelings for Diego; so it would be weird for the writers to just brush all that aside for the sake of a ship. Besides, I donāt think Spencer would get together with anyone. I feel like he has some trauma from his previous relationship, and he would not be ready to date yet, this is also how I think the Diencer storyline would conclude, with Spencer telling Diego heās not ready for a relationship. People are worried that thereās going to be a love triangle between Diego, Logan, and Spencer, but if the writers are aware how much disliked the love triangle of TomJakeden was last season, then theyāre obviously not going to do that again. I also donāt think Diego would be a returnee as I think his storyline with Spencer can be concluded in the comeback episode.
*Spencer comments that this isnāt the first time heās been punched. This line worries me because I think he was talking about his ex. Others say that heās probably talking about bullying, but I don't think so. I like to think that every line of dialogue serves a purpose. Spencerās arc does not involve him getting bullied nor has he mentioned getting bullied before, so it would be strange to throw that line out of nowhere for a miniscule reason. But his arc does involve love and relationship issues, so it would make sense that the line refers to his ex. Some people speculate that he was the bad person in the relationship and was punched because he cheated or something else, but I donāt think thatās what theyāre going for Spencerās character. Yes, it would be interesting to have a character to be the bad person in the relationship given we already have characters like Jake and Grett who were already hurt in their relationships, but I feel like it would be out of character for Spencer. He does not strike me as someone who would hurt their partner intentionally. We see that when he cares for someone (Jade and Diego), heās really sweet towards them. He just constantly has his guard up to make himself look intimidating and avoid getting hurt. Plus the way he acts around Diegoās advances screams that he was hurt in his previous relationship judging by how uncomfortable and scared he was around Diego after the kiss.
*I noticed Spencer always tries to defend himself in situations in which heās put into a vulnerable position. Anytime someone points out his vulnerability, he gets defensive. When someone is angry at him, he responds back with anger. Natalia says that Logan āgot him goodā (referring to the black eye), and Spencer replies very sarcastically that he had no idea. Again, Natalia expresses her sympathy for Spencer, stating that Diegoās elimination mustāve hurt him (making Spencer vulnerable). Spencer then insults her, saying he doesnāt have enough patience to talk to someone with such energy. Then he extends those insults to his confessional. Thereās also other instances he does this before; Jade correcting his flag order, him having to explain his previous relationship, Zaid noting that Spencer is awfully sad to be a dragon, Ivy calling him a villain, Ivy angry at him after Trsitanās elimination, and Hannah chewing him outāhe reacted with anger or insulting them back in all those situations. I think he does so because he tries to regain control from situations he feels vulnerable/powerless in. Maybe this character quirk also relates to his previous relationship because being vulnerable and powerless left him hurt, so he always tries to be above other people who try to challenge that. Whatās interesting is that Spencer never does this with Jade. When she was angry at him, he took it and instead told her that heāll prove his loyalty to her. It also seems like heās fine being vulnerable towards her as he told her about the Diego kiss thing, and got teary eyed and expressed his worriness that if Jade was willing to vote him out if it were an elimination round last episode. Maybe due to her emotionally mature and stoic nature, he feels safe and at peace with her. Which extends with him being attached to her (causing anxious attachment) because maybe sheās the only person he felt like that with.
*Spencerās rant on Natalia caused some controversy as people were saying that he was racist for saying that she has a limited vocabulary. I was confused when people were saying this because I thought he was referring to her usage of Gen Z slang. But when I watched the episode with captions, I noticed Natalia said ādonātā instead of ādoesnātā and āhurtedā instead of āhurtā (the captions put quotation marks around the words to indicate poor grammar). That makes me wonder if the writers were purposely trying to make Spencer insult her with racist undertones because why else would include that line of his? (Assuming they intentionally made Natalia speak with poor grammar in that scene). Itāll probably be mentioned in his Exit Interview, along with how people accused him of being misogynistic, to clear the air if that was not their intention.
**His rant comes off as ironic considering that heās Gen Z and Natalia is a Millennial. Even more ironic is that he uses slang in the Spanish dub later in the episode (calling Anastassia ādeluluā).
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My Thoughts and Predictions based on Disventure Camp Season 4 Episode 8. (Spoilers ahead!). Writing this in a new style, this time itās in chronological order!
Post Elimination:
*Ivy sarcastically tells Spencer if Tristanās elimination was the favor he owed her. Genuinely, when are seeing Spencer's favor to Ivy come into play? Spencer is kinda manipulative so I doubt he'll actually want to owe anything to Ivy, and he was just bluffing at that moment.
*When Spencer was condescending to Ivy ("Oh, it's a game sweetheart!"), you can see Hannah and Zaid mad at him. Then they both comfort Ivy as she slouches. This moment tells me why they were so mad at him throughout the episode. They arenāt mad at him for playing the game, but because heās rude about it. Especially since he was so cocky in Tristanās elimination.
*Jade is glad that Spencer is hated because it means he'll be the next boot and she has a chance of surviving the next elimination round. She is willing to betray her alliance with Spencer to save herself. However, it can also be interpreted that she isnāt willing to betray him, but rather knows that Spencer isnāt surviving the next elimination.
*Ivy can be seen hugging herself. She's savoring Tristan's hug from earlier. This can also be seen when Trevor announces that Tristan was the most recent boot from the team.
*When Zaid explains his hard life, Ivy says she couldn't even imagine. Zaid pokes fun and says he's sure, then calling her 'Ms. Moneybags'. This kinda relates to Ivy's concern in the last episode, where she thought her privilege meant that her problems didn't matter. In this context, it seems like because she's privileged, she wouldn't be able to understand Zaid's struggles.
*Hannah chews out Spencer. Spencer says him eliminating her friends wasnāt for any personal reasons. Then he says itās probably because sheās not good at this game and sheās out of her depth. He smiles when he says this, so I think he said it on purpose just to make her feel bad. Hannah then says she doesnāt know what Diego saw in Spencer. She was hesitant to say it, and only said it to make Spencer upset. And Spencer does get upset, but shakes it off and walks away angrily. When the trailer first released and also in my first watch of the episode, I thought Spencer was in the right and Hannah was just overreacting. Then I came to the conclusion that both were in the right. Now, I just think Hannahās on the right. Spencer was cocky during Tristanās elimination, was condescending to Ivy, then he just insulted her. I would be upset too. Especially since Hannah probably has abandonment issues and she just lost all her friends. I do understand that Spencer is just doing what he can to save himself, but heās being rude about it, which is the real reason his team hates him.
*Hannahās comment at Spencer made me realize that Diego is the only one who has seen the good in Spencer. Everyone seems to have a negative perception of him. Jade seems to vary on this.
*Hannah says Spencerās right. She comments that she thought she could come to learn and play on the fly, but all that ended up happening was her friends getting voted out. She did learn how to play the game though. And, what does her friends getting eliminated have to do with her? Is it because of her gameplay/strategy?
*Benji is suspicious of Jade. Hannah is confused why because both of them are friends. SOO itās confirmed! They do interact with each other. I wish we could see more of their friendship.
*Benji being the one to be suspicious of Jade is interesting. He is a lawyer though, and should know when people are lying or being deceitful. Jade has a RBC, so Iām surprised Benji didnāt think that her being unfazed was just because of her personality. Because of his suspicions, Iām worried Jade might catch on, and heāll be eliminated soon.
*I noticed Benji is the only one who isn't mad at Spencer. I have a theory that Benji has a small crush on Spencer, so more evidence to that theory. And, he was suspicious of Jade rather than Spencer. Like hmm, anything to put Spencer in a good light. š¤Ø
*Jade goes to talk to Benji and Hannah about who to eliminate after Spencer. Since Spencer is on the other team now, I think weāre going to see more of this trio. Hannah seems iffy working with Jade, and Benji too. I wonder if theyāll betray her. And Jade is getting too overconfident. I am worried that she might go sooner than later. But her going this early would be a waste of her character as we still need more of her lore.
Blue Team Shenanigans:
*Marissaās gameplay is pretty smart. She is aware that bringing Lynda back means conflict, but they donāt have to like each other to work as a team. And more alliance members are always good.
*When Lynda catches the boys looking for the girlsā stuff, sheās angry and comments about her/their gender often. First she says āLooking through a girlās things? Well, your mothers should be ashamed!ā. Then she says that they should promise to not touch each otherās stuff, especially āsinful boysā. It seems like she also has a distaste for men, similar to Anastassia. I feel like the two would bond over this in the future. After knowing about her awful sons, I feel like theyāre one of the reasons she has a distaste for them. In another episode, she said āboys only want one thing, and itās disgusting.ā. If her sons are awful to her, imagine her husband! With that comment from the earlier episode, I feel like her husband just sees her as an object and not a real person.
*Lynda is suspicious of Isabel and Natalia but says she wouldnāt question them because she needs them on her side. I guess Marissaās earlier comment was right. She said Lynda would stay loyal if sheās kept safe, and sheās proving that here.
*Natalia comments she has enough experience manipulating people to know Isabelās doing the same. I want to know more about that. When did she practice her manipulation skills before the show? Was it because sheās a publicist?
*āIsabel might be a sister, but sheās mothering the f*ck out of this game!ā That line was so creative. Whoever came up with it needs a raise.
Challenge
*When the red team is introduced, the blue team looks shocked that Tristan is no longer in the picture. They probably thought they were eliminated the normal way, so theyāre questioning how that happened. Meanwhile for the red team, Jade is unfazed, Spencer is grinning, and the rest are upset.
*Derek wanted to give them a chance to compete in their bathing suits? Is it for fanservice š
*Anastassia is rude to Lynda for no reason. Lynda was trying her best to add air to the fire. Then when she added ash(?) to the fire, Anastasia yelled at her. I guess there is a reason, but Anastassia couldāve been nicer. Marissa sees this and looks disappointed. And I thought Anastassia was skilled at making fire, why is she taking a long time to do this?
*Spencer manages to make a fire in seconds without the air. He shouldāve been the one trying to make it instead of Ivy.
*Lynda attempts to become the leader herself but is doing a bad job at it. When the boat is falling apart, Lynda gives the leadership to Marissa. They build a better boat and everyone applauds Marissa, while Lynda looks sad. Marissa notices and thanks her for being a team player, but Lynda is hesitant to accept the compliment. Marissa is so nice, I love how she always wants Lynda to feel included. Lynda wanting to be the leader makes me think she wants to prove herself to her teammates and make them see her as a valuable teammate.
Post Challenge:
*Lynda is sad while the team celebrates, and even leaves to stay away from the group. Marissa catches up to her, asking her whereās heading and if she doesnāt want to celebrate. Lynda says as if people want her there. Lynda feels underappreciated by her team, especially since people like Anastassia are vocal about it. Hits harder knowing her home life; most people donāt like her and she feels insecure about that.
*Lynda opens about her life. Lynda being married so young kinda makes sense why sheās a tad immature now. She was forced to grow up quickly while still being young, she hasnāt developed much emotionally. When Lynda says that her son called her a āb*tchā when she was just trying to spend time with him, I actually teared up because of that. I knew her family didnāt treat her right based on previous episodes. I feel like itās because sheās a woman and her family has sexist views, which is kinda implied since she mentioned her family just sees her as someone who cooks and cleans. I think this would give her something to relate with Anastassia.
*I noticed she started crying, and Marissa also got teary eyed. Marissa is really empathetic to cry with her.
*When Spencer comments that relationships can be dangerous down the line, Jade looks upset for some reason, despite knowing the plan.
*Hannah feels guilty for wanting to break up Zaid and Ivy to play the game. She has separation issues and this game is causing her to confront those issues. That would probably be her storyline this season.
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Thoughts/Predictions based off Disventure Camp Season 4 Episode 7 + Exit Interview (Spoilers ahead!!).
This is so late because episode 8 already released 4 days ago. š I was almost finished writing my review on time and before the trailer, but I was kinda unmotivated to finish. But I was like 98% done on Friday, I just needed to complete some of the thoughts I had in the interview. Then my Google Docs was acting up so I couldnāt post it for like a few more days. Iām also leaving in my predictions I had for episode 8, even though some of them got jossed. Iām also writing this in a different style.
Advantage:
*Richard finds an advantage and thinks itās just junk until Logan tells him to look inside. Richardās been shown to be quite intelligent in previous episodes, such as him making Isabel second guess her position in the girl's alliance in episode 6, he would be smart enough to know that the cage wasnāt just junk. I was surprised *Logan* was the one to suggest to look inside as I thought he wouldāve been doltish like Richard, glad theyāre not playing the dumb jock trope for Logan though. Logan tells Richard to open it, but he doesnāt in case someone hears them. Natalia told them to not care about subtlety, so why isnāt Richard listening to her.
*Anastassia ends up finding it. With Anastassia having the advantage, I bet sheās going to use it to eliminate Lynda if Marissa refuses to do so. I can also see it being stolen by Lynda so she could save herself during trials.
Anastassia and Marissa:
*Marissa asks Anastasia if anything was found, and Anastassia says no, then we get a close up of Marissa having a suspicious face. Marissa is definitely a little suspicious that Anastassia is lying, but didn't want to distrust Anastassia. Anastassia then walks tensely. She definitely feels bad that she can't tell her. Also, I loved the detail of Anastassiaās bracelet sliding down when shoving the note in her pocket.
*Anastassia pops Ivyās shoulder to get the ball from her. Marissa witnesses this and when she catches the ball, I think she feels guilty using it because Anastassia got it in an unfair way. When Marissa throws it at Jade, she closes her eyes and looks uncomfortable.
*Marissa is reasonably mad at Anastasia because she just injured someone. It was an accident but Anastassia doesnāt even feel remorse nor does she want to apologize. The conflicting morals of these two would definitely become an issue throughout the game and their relationship.
Spencer and Jade:
*Hannah and Spencer just sitting on the outs shows that they donāt have anyone to talk to. Hannahās friends with Tristan and Benji, but she isnāt as close to them as she was with Diego. Spencer was friends with Jade, but she's not talking to him at the moment.
*Last episode, Jade said she's going to talk to Spencer like she was going to do it at that moment. But it seems like they never conversed as Jade still thinks Spencer's untrustworthy. Spencer attempts to reconcile with Jade. Jade asks how she can trust Spencer again. He says he swapped groups during the musical, but that situation and being someone's ally are so different, they can't be compared. Then he says his plan comes at minimum risk but ends up using her idol, which could've been useful to her. Spencer mentions he has a plan but once Jade agrees to work with him and asks what his plan is, he starts thinking. He never had a plan to begin with. He's literally thinking of one at that moment. And Jade actually looks so done with him in that scene š. Jade mentions she still doesn't trust Spencer but Tristan's encouragement to talk to him made her realize that he still has value. That line made me so confused if they talked after the musical or not. Also, that āvalueā is him being her puppet. She is just using him, which is a bit sad because Spencer said āour powerā, he genuinely sees Jade as his equal.
*When the red team return to their camping ground, Spencer berates Ivy again. Jade and Benji look so uncomfortable with Spencer. Spencer came up with the plan and Jade agreed, but especially with Jadeās history of being bullied, she feels uncomfortable with how Spencer treats Ivy, even if itās just for the game.
*When Spencer walks in and starts discussing the vote, Jadeās acting is so obvious and bad. She already knew the plan was to vote out Tristan, but when Spencer suggests Ivy, she keeps doing š¤ a lot and looking at Spencer and then back at Benji/Hannah. I thought that was funny.
Trinji:
*Is Trinji becoming canon? Tristan has a crush on Benji and is so obvious with it. But lots of the Trinji lines were improvised by Tristan's voice actor, so they weren't in the script originally, BUT they were kept in though. Was Tristan having a crush on Benji always planned? With Tristan eliminated Iām wondering how this dynamic would develop. I honestly feel like Benji is making it to the finals so they might become canon there. But for some reason, I don't see them becoming canon. Maybe Tristan would just be left crushing on Benji without any reciprocated feelings. I know Benji asked if it's straight or gay to date an enby person, but I think he said this because he was genuinely curious and we havenāt gotten any hints that Benji likes them back.
*I feel like their conversation wasnāt shown for nothing. It seems like Benji thought the only sexualities were gay and straight, which is why he looked shocked when Tristan said it can be neither gay or straight to date an enby person. Benji may possibly be getting a bi (or any other m-spec sexuality) awakening arc. He does seem a bit obsessed with getting Spencerās attention. He felt bad when he assumed Spencer (and Jade) didnāt like him in episode 4, made Diego be less interested in Spencer to get in his good side, was happy when Spencer saw his potential when telling him and Tristan about voting out Zaid and Ivy, and was eager to ask him who he wanted to be voted out when Spencer wanted to discuss the votes near the end of the episode. Benji probably has a crush on him. Benji and Spencer would obviously not become canon because I canāt see Spencer being interested in Benji. But there is another contestant who is having a gay/bi awakening arc..LOGAN. Maybe Logan and Benji would discover their sexualities and they would become a couple. I think Hannah would be the one to teach Benji about bisexuality.
Ivy (and Zaid):
*Ivy's avoiding everyone because she assumes everyone hates her, but that's not true. We know she has a perfectionist complex so she assumes everyone does because of a minor mistake she did. She also comments that she'll be social again after she proves herself in the next challenge. Interesting that in the last episode, she said she's a social butterfly. But here, she's avoiding everyone.
*Ivy volunteers herself to be the dodgeball player because she mentioned that wants to prove herself. This backfires as she messes up a lot. When the challenge is over, she says she didn't know they were able to throw downward. After Spencer berates her, she says that it hurts when you try your hardest and still disappoint. When she accidentally throws the ball to Marissa and Spencer berates her again, she says that it was the wind. She often deflects the blame to other things for her faults. If she took the blame, sheāll be showing her team that she really is useless, so she blames it on other things.
*Zaid joins so Ivy has some backup. But once he sees her with teary eyes, he gets distracted and hit in the face. He mentions that supporting Ivy would come with more obstacles than he thought. I think him being too invested in Ivy would affect his game play and would become a challenge in his character.
*Trevor tells Ivy that sheās able to sit out of the challenge with her popped shoulder, she refuses and states that sheās fine. Sheās sacrificing her own well being to prove herself to others.
*When Zaid goes to check up on Ivy, she tells him to drop the boyfriend act. I think she assumes sheās not worthy of deserving love if sheās not perfect. Especially since this is after Spencer just berated her and basically called her useless. And that comment hurts Zaid because he genuinely cares for her, but respects her wishes to be left alone.
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My thoughts on Disventure Camp Season 4 Episode 6
Spencer: I felt so bad for Spencer because he was sad throughout the episode. He looked hurt/scared when Jade was mad at him for voting out Diego, then he told her that heās still loyal to her and would prove it with any request. He wants to show Jade that heās loyal because he also sees her as a friend and not just an ally. Then Jade goes looking for new allies because she doesnāt trust Spencer, so heāll have no friends when the game is over. Iām also surprised Jade thinks Spencer is untrustworthy, he seems loyal to her and the alliance, but just voted out Diego because he was a trigger for his relationship traumas (thatās how I interpreted it at least). We later see Spencer following Jadeās orders like a dog š, like he was RUNNING to switch sides with Jade. I wonder if Spencerās willingness to show Jade that heās loyal has anything to do with his past relationship. Then when Zaid was putting on his dragon wings, he looked so sad, like he wanted to cry. Zaid pointed out his sadness, causing him to get defensive and shift the attention towards Zaid. This is another instance of him not liking to show his vulnerable side. Ivy makes him more hurt by putting Spencer in the villain role because every love story needs one (Also note that I donāt think it was intentional on Ivy's part). I think he was hurt because people see him as the bad guy for voting out Diego, and he slightly believes it too. Near the end of the episode, Tristan says Spencerās been angsty all day, and Jade says heāll go talk to him. Weāll probably see his and Jadeās conversation in the beginning of the next episode. I feel like Spencer is going to be stargazing all sad or crying in the woods, and heāll open up to Jade why he eliminated Diego. I think Spencerās arc in the show is going to have him be more open to people, and that itās okay to show his vulnerable side.
Hannah/Benji/Tristan/Jade Friendship: I love their friendship, I hope we see more of it. They also kinda parallel each other. Benji and Jade both have been outcasted for being different. Tristan and Hannah know what itās like to feel alone. Something I like about this season is that we get to see characters interact with more people. In previous seasons, a character would befriend someone and theyāll stay in that group not really interacting with others. But here, characters have interacted with their teammates at least once and we see new friendships form throughout the season. This friendship is so good for Jadeās character. With her friendship with Spencer, we only saw her serious and stoic side because they are similar in personality. Jade befriending the others brings out a new side to her due to the contrast in personalities. And we did see that because she opened up to Benji about her nerdy side of loving cosplay and superheroes.
I loved the conversation between Hannah and Tristan, it was so raw and the voice acting was so good. We got to see Tristan being open and showing their negative feelings, which we havenāt seen before. Tristan said that keeping a positive attitude made dealing with dark stuff in their life easier to handle. I wonder if weāll get to hear more of that. I think it relates to something about their family because they donāt like seeing people who are close being at odds with each other, and that might tie into their parents always arguing. Plus, we havenāt heard of their family yet. Tristan is experiencing toxic positivity, and their arc in the show is going to have them drift away from that mindset and learn that it's okay to feel negative feelings at times. This is kinda similar to what I think Spencerās arc is going to be, with them being okay at showing their vulnerability, now I kinda want them to have a conversation with each other and bond over that. I also thought Tristanās arc was going to be Hannahās due to one of her lines in the casting call saying something likeāIf I can't see the good, what's even the point?ā, so Hannahās arc may be something else.
Benji and Tristanās friendship was so wholesome. Tristan is the only one who doesnāt judge Benji, and also appreciates his goofy side. I actually teared up in the scene where Benji thanked him. The voice acting when Tristan said other people are missing out for not appreciating Benji was so good, that was the line that made me tear up. Also because I relate to Benji.
Girlās Alliance: Marissa brings Lynda back to the Girlās Alliance. Anastassia, Isabel, and Natalia are all against it, but Anastassia is the only vocal one. Isabel and Natalia are definitely betraying the alliance. Isabel comments how she might have to make moves sooner than she thought. I think this relates to her voting out bigger threats like Anastassia and Marissa, who both are intelligent and strong. In a greeting, she did mention that Anastassia is her biggest threat, so she may be more open to voting for her. Meanwhile, Natalia is trying to save Logan. I find her trying to save Logan sweet because she sees herself in him, but I wish we had more scenes of them interacting to really show why sheās fond of Logan and to see their dynamic more. In the ending scene, we see Natalia planning on telling Logan and Richard about Lynda. So sheās definitely going to form a new alliance with the boys and Isabel.
Ivy: Ivy is not intentionally rude, she just lacks some social knowledge. She has an ego but thatās because she was raised to think sheās better than others. We get a glimpse of Ivyās ego when she corrects Lynda how she is a singer slash actress. Then again when Ivy takes the lead and doesnāt let Jade add some ideas. In my opinion, Ivy was kinda right there, it makes sense why sheāll lead the group as she is the most experienced. And Zaid nodding his head just agreeing with Ivy was kinda funny. Later in the performance, she takes the lead and gives the others very few lines, forgetting that there was supposed to be 3 leads in each song. I think she put herself in the lead because she believed she'd make the team win due to her talents. In the end, the group is given an 8. Ivy put her heart and soul into the performance, she tried her best, especially at something sheās good at, so to be only given an 8 by all the judges obviously hurt her. Then her nitpick cost the team the win because their scores got lowered. I see a lot of hate for Ivy for doing that, but how come none of the fandom are mad at Emily and Derek for changing their score. We later see her uncontrollably sobbing, repeating that sheās useless. She seems to have a perfectionist complex. If something she does isnāt perfect, sheāll feel like a failure. I hope we hear more about her home life, because I think her parents might've putten a lot of pressure on her, which is why she's the way she is. When Zaid asks her what her goal in life is, she says it's to be an actress. I wonder if genuinely wants that or is just forced into that career by her parents. Maybe she'll realize she doesn't want to do acting and chooses another career during her time on the show
Hosts: We get some host drama this episode. I was wondering if we were gonna get a host storyline because every season had one, but I assumed we were not because they have been kinda sidelined in previous episodes. It seems like Trevor has forgiven Emily for what she has done the previous season, but Derek is holding a grudge. It should be the opposite, but it makes sense for Trevor and Derek's personalities. Iām glad theyāre mentioning this because it seems like they just brushed aside the fact Emily harmed the contestants and Trevor. Later, Trevor praises Emily for coming into her own, and Emily says sheās not looking for validation but gives him thanks. Iām kinda confused on what their storyline is. Is Emily going to learn to be her own person, with Trevorās help along the way. While Derek doesnāt appreciate their bonding?
Small Comments:
*I loved the scene of Natalia and Anastasia being homesick and missing food from their respective countries. It feels realistic because we never really see anyone missing home, and it also relates to the prize of a buffet of burgers because everyone is craving real food.
*Ivy takes Zaid and Jade, and leaves out Tristan. I wonder why she wanted Jade in her group. She really is forgetting about Tristan, no wonder they feel left out. š
*Lynda being excited to sing because she recalls all the moms gathering up for weekly karaoke was lowkey cute.
*I loved Richard being strategic. His jab at Isabel not being appreciated in the Girlās Alliance is making her second guess her position in the group.
*In Captivated, the position of the circle in the mural of Isabel suspiciously resembles horns, is that foreshadowing to Isabel being evil, or am I looking too deep into things.
*Lynda was the one to suggest if a kiss would work in a group of all girls. Then she praised Anastassia and Marissa for the kiss. This shows that sheās not homophobic, and was just confused about Richardās family in episode 4.
*If Derek didnāt change his vote after Logan made a Red Hot Chilli Peppers reference, it wouldāve ended in a tie. So itās actually Logan who made the Blue Team win.
*I see some Diencer and Anarissa parallels. Diego tried to kiss Spencer and then Spencer got a confessional being flustered about the kiss, Anastassia actually kisses Marissa and we see Marissa being flustered about the kiss in a confessional. Diego asks Spencer to talk alone when theyāre in a group, Anastassia does the same near the end of the episode.
*When Hannah asked Tristan if they liked Zaid or Ivy, I thought there was going to be a love triangle between them, and Iām glad there isnāt.
*Zaid comforting Ivy was cute, but a small nitpick I have is that Zaid just seems to be Ivyās love interest. I hope that changes and we see more of his character.
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An analysis of Spencerās actions and Diencer in Season 4 Episode 5 of Disventure Camp. Spoilers ahead!
**TW in this section for relationship PTSD/trauma.
I feel like I interpreted Spencer's actions vastly differently compared to the majority of the fandom. The fandom interpreted that Spencer eliminated Diego because his crush on him was a distraction. To me, it seems like Spencer has PTSD/trauma from his past relationship, and after the kiss ordeal, Diego was kind of a trigger for him, which is why he eliminated Diego. I actually cried when watching the episode because I really felt bad for Spencer. When I checked dctwt and the episodeās comment section, I was shocked to see that no one else made the same connection. So itās possible that Iām just overanalyzing everything, but Disventure Camp does touch on serious topics, so it is plausible that my interpretation may be the case. Also note that I am not an expert on PTSD, trauma, or any other mental health issues, so take my analysis with a grain of salt. Before I talk about the events in this episode, I also want to talk about stuff that happened in previous episodes. In previous episodes, we can see that Spencer is uncomfortable with touch, and that is often a sign of trauma from past relationships. He was uncomfortable when Diego wanted to hold on to him during the roller coaster ride in Episode 1, jumped when Diego put his hand on his forehead in Episode 3, removed Diegoās hand from his shoulder in Episode 3, and jumped when Diego put his hand on his wrist to give him the mango in Episode 4. I mean, he could just not like physical touch but the fact that itās shown so much, and the fact he even got startled in two of the examples, tells me that this was intentional. In Episode 3, we learn that he was previously in a relationship. He at first denies it, but Emily tells him lying won't work with her. He looks visibly uncomfortable when pressured to elaborate on his previous relationship. He slouches and puts his fist to his chest. When Diego reassures him that they wouldn't judge, Spencer gets slightly angry and says it's something he'd rather forget. The fact he got defensive tells me that he doesn't like being vulnerable, which may tie into his past relationship. He fears being vulnerable would lead him to getting hurt again, which is why he doesn't like to do so. Now back to this episode. As Diego grabs Spencerās hands, you can see he gets a bit frightened, another instance of him being uncomfortable with touch. Speaking of the hand holding scene, I loved the body language there. The way Diego pays no attention to him grabbing Spencerās hands, showing it was really impulsive. The way Spencer stares at their hands for a while, processing what's happened, then blushing as he looks back at DIego. Spencer freezes as Diego is about to kiss him, which is possibly a stress response. When Spencer leaves the area, he has tense shoulders and clenched fists. He stutters over his words when telling Diego he needs to leave. He continues to stutter and also breathe heavily in his confessional when explaining that he wants to get into a relationship with Diego, but is unsure if he really wants it to happen. Also note he said āIs it bad that I want it to happen again?ā. I think this implies something bad happened in his old relationship, and now has a negative perception of dating in general. After that interaction, he is so uncomfortable and terrified around Diego. We first see this when Diego waves at him during the challenge and Spencer visibly looks uncomfortable. Later when Spencer explains to Jade that Diego tried to kiss him, he stutters and breathes heavily again. Iām not sure if the stuttering and breathing thing is hyperventilation or not, but it does show that he feels panic and anxiety. And granted, the heavy breathing could just be from the running, but Jade nor anyone else is out of breath when speaking and running (the only exception being Natalia). He also said that Diego is his liability and couldnāt face him, possibly showing he feels anxiety around him. After the challenge, Spencer and Jade have another conversation and Spencer looks really sad. He offers to switch the target to Diego because he's a distraction to him, and wouldn't be able to play with full mental capacity with him around, and he looks ashamed when explaining this. I don't think Spencer is the type to be distracted by a crush, the distraction stems from something deeper. I think that just seeing Diego reminds him of his past relationship and that brings him a lot of anxiety and panic, as shown earlier in the episode. When Jade refuses, Spencer looks hurt and leaves. Spencer is mad that she doesnāt want to vote for Diego, but he didnāt communicate why he wanted to vote for him that well. He never specified the reason Diego was a distraction to him, and Jade probably assumes it was because of a crush. He encounters Diego again and seems very uncomfortable and almost terrified around him. I was actually confused why he was randomly walking on the beach, but I think it's him leaving from his conversation with Jade. When Diego calls him, Spencer actually looks scared. Diego apologizes about the kiss, and Spencer says it's fine as it was probably a mistake. I feel like Spencer is just saying that to cope. Because if he believes Diego isnāt in love with him, that would bring him less anxiety being near him. When Diego retaliates saying it was not a mistake and confesses his love for Spencer, Spencer looks terrified. He has closed off body language like crossed arms, and there's a great distance between the two. Diegoās openness about his emotions is probably overwhelming for someone who is closed off like Spencer. In that scene, we can see a hazard sign in the background of their conversation, and that means that danger is ahead. And after this conversation, Diego gets his heart broken and also eliminated. I don't know if it was intentional but it's such a cool detail. Spencer then has a confessional in which he is breathing heavily and says āI can't do thisā then he cries (assuming this takes place before his and Ivy's conversation). If it really was a crush, I doubt it would bring him this much stress to the point of crying and him saying that he couldnāt ādo thisā. The āI canāt do thisā line probably means he canāt be near Diego. I mean, he could be saying that about the elimination, and crying because the thought of eliminating Diego is hurting him, but it has to be something much deeper. After his and Jadeās earlier conversation, he was probably going to stick with Benji. But after this encounter with Diego, he realizes he can't function properly around him because he brings him anxiety. He then asks Ivy, still with teary eyes, to eliminate Diego because he knows Jade wouldn't. Also note that when Ivy asked Spencer why heās crying, he gets defensive again. Then as he is shaking Ivyās hand, he is not confident like when he shook Jadeās hand in Episode 1.
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My Review for Disventure Camp Season 4 Episode 5. Spoilers ahead!!
Marissa: I found Marissa really interesting in this episode. She has a lot of people pleasing tendencies and that seems to be affecting her in the game and in her personal life. Marissa comments that the girls should try to win Lynda back because itāll be helpful to enter the merge with more alliance members. However, I think her wanting to make mends with Lynda is more than something competition wise. She feels bad for excluding Lynda, despite Lynda being a bad person. I feel like thereās two possible reasons for why this is. Either she feels bad for excluding Lynda because she knows what itās like to feel ignored or she worries that Lynda would have a negative perception of her due to leaving her out of the alliance, or maybe a mix of both. When none of the girls are in favor of making Lynda rejoin, Marissa says to forget she said anything and leaves. She told the girls to forget her proposal, making it seem like her idea was unimportant. What sheās doing is not healthy in terms of communication as she's essentially telling them to ignore her desires. Marissa tends to leave whenever thereās a conflict, even Anastassia comments on this. She probably leaves to avoid making the conflict worse. She is heavy on minimizing conflict and trying to keep everyone unified, such as her forfeiting her truth challenge in Episode 3, and her telling Anastassia to keep her and Loganās competition friendly. All of which are people pleasing traits. Marissa then opens up about how she does not want to join the military despite it being expected of her. She said sheās seen what being in the military does to her family, so Iām guessing lots of her family members are/have enlisted. In her audition, she says that she loves spending time with her family, and theyāre the reason she wants to enlist in the military in the first place. Due to her valuing family, she probably feels pressured to enlist because so many of her family members have done so. During the competition, Marissa gets tired and Anastassia tells her to switch, and she refuses despite being tired. Also, she commented that she eats 20 calories daily, is she okay? But she does end up switching when she realizes she can't hold up. The fact she didnāt want to switch despite being tired shows that she would rather sacrifice her well being than disappoint her teammates. I think her arc in the show would be her learning to set boundaries and prioritize her needs first. Her people pleasing tendencies may stem from her wanting to seek validation from others. Maybe she does get ignored often in her family, and she learned that pleasing everyone gives her validation she needs. This also ties into why she wanted to join the military and why she may have felt bad for excluding Lynda. Maybe she isolates when overwhelmed because she is used to handling stuff on her own.
Blue Team Shenanigans:
*Richard said all it takes is for someone to flip, and Logan said heās the one who can do the convincing. I feel like Natalia would betray the Girlās Alliance and join Lyndaās. She has a soft spot for Logan due to him reminding her when she was younger, and was the one who suggested him over Lynda.
*Isabel keeps mentioning the idol. She tried to make the girls paranoid that the boys had it last episode. In this episode, she suggested that Logan may have the idol due to him being able to find things quickly. If she keeps mentioning that others have the idol, I think Natalia would grow suspicious of her and make her misuse it. However, since Natalia and Isabel are close, Iām not sure if Natalia would do this.
*When Marissa bumps into Lynda, Lynda assumes that Marissa would use this moment to bad mouth her. This moment highlights that she always assumes that people are thinking the worst of her, probably stemming from her family. But Marissa reassures her that that wouldnāt happen, and she wants to make amends with her. Lynda doesnāt buy it until Marissa says that the girls wouldnāt vote for her. Lynda then grins and has a confessional in which she says this is the opportunity sheās been waiting for. This moment is definitely going to bite back Marissa because Lynda is definetry going to target the girls, most likely Anastassia or Marissa. Since Marissaās arc is about setting boundaries, I think sheāll learn that she doesnāt have to be nice to everyone and her making mends with Lynda would be a big factor to her arc.
Ivy: Iāve been seeing Ivy get a lot of hate, especially for being mean to Benji. Yes, she is condescending at times, and lots of her lines are of her being rude to contestants, but I donāt think she is intentionally being malicious. She was taken aback when Zaid commented that they were being mean to Benji, showing that she is trying her best to not be mean. Since she is a celebrity and dropped out of High School early, I think she just doesnāt understand a lot of social cues. Plus, lots of the Red Team were being mean to Benji. Hannah snickered at Amelieās comment about Benji in Episode 3. But she seemed bad for him when Ivy was condensing to him. And for some reason, everyone gathered up and just made fun of Benjiās idol. I also found it weird how Tristan was poking fun of Benji because they seem like the type to perceive it as rude. Also, I loved the delivery of the āIt looks like a f*cking stickā line. But I am surprised Ivy cursed because she seems like the type to be against cursing since she said āson of a gunā in Episode 2. Also, I donāt think sheās going to be a twist villain, I donāt think the writers would want to repeat Riyaās storyline.
Spencer/Diencer: Separate post
Future episode predictions.
*After episode 5ās elimination, the team walk away sad, and Spencer visibly has teary eyes. Jade and Spencer argue about this episodeās elimination and break off their alliance (However, would Jade really be that dumb to break off her alliance with him, even if they had a disagreement?). Hannah goes to talk with Spencer about what happened with him and Diego. I want Spencer to cry and open up to Hannah, but I donāt think Spencer would be comfortable enough in showing his vulnerable side to anyone. Hannah would probably try to bond more with Spencer to save herself but they end up becoming friends, and I would love to see their friendship. Sheāll probably help Spencer be less closed off.
*I feel like Episode 6 would have no eliminations, and itāll be a reward challenge. Jared mentioned that there would be 4 songs, so I think there would be two rounds of both teams competing for two rewards, which was similar to Episode 1. This would give time for more characters to develop. One of the Red Teamās songs is definitely going to be a love/heartbreak song.
*I have this crack theory that Jade and Benji would end up dating. Jadeās voice actor said that Jade is straight from what she knows, so this can imply she has dated before and itāll be mentioned at some point, is dating someone right now, or would crush on a male contestant. The likely candidate is Spencer (even though Iām 100% sure heās gay), but I feel like itās Benji. If you think about it, they can actually work. Jade has been outcast for her vitiligo when younger, and Benji is currently being outcast in the Red Team, I can see them bonding over this. If Spencer and Jade have a disagreement in Episode 6, then I think Hannah would bond with Spencer, leaving Jade alone. She might be forced to work with Benji due to not wanting anyone to target her. They get closer and she ends up falling for Benji. Not only would JADE having a crush on BENJI be lowkey funny, but her words to Diego about love being dangerous in this game would bite back at her and be ironic. Plus, Jade interacting with Benji would bring out a side weāve never seen of her. Since her and Spencer are similar in energy, we only see her stoic side. If she were to interact with someone like Benji, then we can see more sides to her due to their contrasting personalities. This would also be the beginning of Benjiās arc, with the first storyline finding someone he connects to. Jade may also help Benji in finding the confidence to stand up to his parents, and switch his career to something he truly desires, and not one his parents want.
*In Spencerās audition, he mentioned that he doubts a twist would throw him off balance, and that line has to foreshadow something. Since Diegoās gone, the twist cannot be Spencerās crush getting in the way of the game, so it has to be something else. Since this season takes some inspiration from āAustralian Survivor: Titans v Rebelsā, my theory is that Benji would end up finding the popcorn advantage similar to that season and end up eliminating Spencer. I know Valeria, Anastasiaās inspiration, was eliminated that way, but Anastasiia being eliminated this way would be too obvious. Plus, BENJI being the one to eliminate SPENCER would not only be funny, but it would be the most iconic elimination and boost up Benjiās character. Or it can be Spencer breaking his leg and getting medically evacuated.
*I feel like the idol has to play some role in the story. Either it was done so we can see how often he is underestimated and bullied, giving him motivation to try to win, or for something else. Everyone in the Red Team saw the idol but Spencer and Jade. Spencer and Jade are also the only ones aware of the real idol. What if Benji swaps his fake idol with Jadeās idol
*Richard and Marissa double elimination. This is obviously not happening but I for some reason have a feeling that it could happen.
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My review of Disventure Camp Season 4 episode 4. Spoilers for that and the eliminated person's exit interview. Iām going to start reviewing episodes on my community tab like I did with the Total Drama reboot. All of these reviews are gonna be REALLY long because I love to yap about stuff Iām passionate about. This one is around 2,000 words long, so bear with me!
Benji: I know Benji isn't a fan favorite but he is so interesting to me, and even relatable. I feel bad for him because he gets left out of stuff, his team doesn't take him seriously, and nor do they like him. During his and Ivyās conversation, she tells him to find his āpeepsā. So we're probably going to get a storyline of Benji trying to form a friendship with someone. Iām assuming it's with Hannah as they interacted in the intro. He also interacted with Diego before, and Diego seems like the only Red Team member who likes Benji, so maybe it can be him as well. I hope those three become a trio because I want Diego to interact with people who are not Spencer. I also see people saying he's an early boot (and even I said it before) but I don't think so. I feel like his storyline of trying to fit in and find his passion would take more than just a few episodes, he could go far and I could actually see him being top 8.
Diencer: Iām not really a shipper and I didn't really care for any of the ships before, but after episode 1, I became a fan of Diencer. I was interested to see how they'll end up as a couple due to their contrasting personalities, and also because I really can't envision Spencer being interested in romance, so I was also interested to see where they would take his character if he had a crush. After these last episodes, I started liking this ship less, and Iām not really a fan of them anymore. I feel like the Diencer scenes so far have been kinda cringe worthy. Like that flirting scene from last episode and the āshy boy š„ŗā thing in this one. Not sure if they're making it cringe on purpose for comical reasons or if they're genuinely going with this. The way Diego feels about Spencer feels cartoony at times. Such as the scene of Benji telling Diego how gross Spencer was, and Diego ending up finding those examples adorable for some reason. I know it's been hinted that Spencer also likes Diego, but is too focused on the game to care about crushes, but I don't like how Diego is very flirty towards Spencer, when he's kinda uncomfortable with that most of the time. It makes me uncomfortable as well, but maybe that's just me. Although I'm iffy on the ship right now, I have trust in the writers, and I don't want to judge the ship too early. Other ships were written fine, and Anarissa and Zaivy seem to be going well. People have been mentioning that Diego feeling immediate attraction towards Spencer despite not interacting much, doesn't make sense, however love at first sight does exist. I feel like the love at first sight thing may be important to Diegoās character in some way. Maybe he was never allowed to explore his sexuality freely back in Colombia, and all the repressed feelings are being let out in a safe space like Disventure Camp. Or due to him being a *traveling* tour guide, he feels isolated because anytime he meets someone, it's only temporary. Which may explain why he got attached to Spencer so quickly, however not sure why specifically Spencer. And an interesting theory I saw is that he fears having his life wasted and wants to fulfill everything quickly; which also ties in his love for traveling and meeting new people, and one of his casting lines. They'll probably interact in future episodes and learn more about each other though. Also, an interesting parallel I found between the two is that Diego seems to be acting on his crush immediately, while Spencer seems to be repressing it.
Zaivy/Vibe Tribe: Zaivy is actually really cute. I love how their personalities bounce off each other, and how natural their conversations are. When Tristan interrupted them, it kinda became awkward, then Ivy immediately moved the subject to strategy. Which I found kinda funny. Maybe it's just me, but when the vibe tribe are together, I find them interesting. But when they're not, I find them boring. Which is strange, because it's usually the opposite in some writing cases.
Girl's Alliance: I loved the interactions Logan had with Natalia and Anastasia. I feel like Natalia may help Logan realize his sexuality as most of their interactions involve them talking about romance in some way. Loganās friendship with Anastasia was cute, and it would help her see that some people do see her past her looks, and value her smarts. When she won the fire making challenge, she assumed Logan would get mad for losing to a girl, but Logan took losing the competition well and never accounted gender for his/her skills. I saw some people get mad at Logan for switching sides so suddenly, but it makes sense. Logan barely bonded with Ted or Richard, so he probably wouldnāt be attached to them. Meanwhile, heās bonded with Natalia before, and with Anastassia more than anyone. So it makes sense for him to not want to vote out Anastassia as he just grew fond of her. Marissa and Anastassia got mad at Lynda for flipping their alliance, but they didnāt even discuss the vote to her, so sheāll obviously leave if they donāt include her. In the end of the episode, Marissa said she'll make an effort to include Lynda in the alliance. However, if the girls are smart about this, they could just vote her off next elimination. Pretty sure no one in the Blue Team likes her, they'll be fine with voting her out. But Lynda probably isnāt leaving so early.
Lynda: As Ted said in his exit interview, I don't think Lynda was intentionally being malicious/homophobic. I think she was just ignorant and genuinely confused. She lives in a traditional household, where she cleans and cooks, and her husband provides for the family. She couldnāt comprehend how a household with two dads would work as there is a role missing. Maybe she assumed Richardās daughter took the role of āthe motherā, which is why she stated that she hoped she was okay. She didnāt understand why Richard got upset because she assumed she was just asking a simple question. She didnāt realize her comments sounded homophobic. I actually feel bad for Lynda. Last episode she said that everyone doubts her in camp, which was the same back home. This episode, she said her sons favored their father more, and that all she was good for was scrubbing the floors. I donāt think sheās living the best home life. I feel like she gets ignored by her family and they only view her as someone who cooks and cleans. Lynda and Anastassia are kinda similar. They both want to prove that theyāre more than what people think they areāand what people assume about them, ties into their gender. Theyāre definitely going to bond over this in a future episode, and realize that theyāre not so different. I feel like Lynda would be getting a storyline about becoming a better person, she seems very capable of change.
Elimination/Ted: The Girl's Alliance voting out Ted was a really smart move, and the fact that they weren't willing to trust Logan so quickly was smart as well. I donāt think this was a bad elimination because the Girl's Alliance discussed voting out Ted before, so itās not surprising that they would keep aiming for him. In his exit interview, he said he knew Logan would flip, but had no power. If Ted knew Logan would flip, he could have suggested voting for someone other than Anastassia. But it's likely Logan still wouldn't have turned on any member of the Girlās Alliance. Ted never really had an arc, so he may return later on. He said he wants to come back if there is a chance. This is a 26 episode season with 18 contestants, so thereās definitely going to be a comeback challenge. I could see him working with Isabel if he does return. I kinda want him to interact with Hannah because he mentioned it..and also bartender and poker buddies, but I canāt see them interacting. Ted was also very wholesome in his exit interview. A line I liked is when he said he didn't want to discuss his family much to protect their privacy, I found that endearing, and it's also realistic. I kinda assumed he was lying about his family as well, but I'm glad he actually is just a wholesome dad. I love how heās really understanding of others and cares about his family.
More in the pinned comment because my post is too long.
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Guys, I'm kinda obsessing over Disventure Camp Season 4, so here's my theories before any new episodes release. I know this is kinda late because two episodes already premiered but we haven't seen much, so there's still things to predict.
Spoilers for episode 2 if you haven't seen it.
In the intro, the end group pose has people next to each other. Tristan, Zaid, and Ivy; Hannah and Amelie; Jade, Diego, and Spencer; Isabel and Natalia; Ted, Lynda, Richard; Anastassia and Marissa. We can see that Alessio, Logan, and Benji are not paired with anyone. We know Alessio was first boot, so I say Benji and Logan are the next boots. Plus, Logan and Benji don't really have anything going on for them. Benji would be eliminated first since Blue Team already lost so much times.
Again in the intro, Richard looks suspiciously at Lynda and Ted. Richard also doesn't have anything going on for him, so I say Ted and Lynda vote him out because he was getting too suspicious of them.
Hannah's arc is that she's going to help Amelie be a better person. Once Amelie does become one, Hannah will be eliminated.
Amelie is getting suspicious of Jade, so Jade convinces the others to eliminate Amelie.
Natalia also doesn't have anything going on for her, except for the fact she's in a girl's alliance and an Emily fanatic. But, in her audition, she mentioned she's the person to call to have their public image fixed. I actually stopped watching All Stars midway, but I heard Emily had her character become worse. So, imagine Natalia helps Emily boost her public image. Maybe Isabel and her are at the bottom 2, then Isabel uses her totem, causing Natalia to be eliminated.
Tristan also doesn't have anything going on for them, except that they're in a trio with Zaid and Ivy. I feel like they'll have an unfair elimination because I can't see anyone willing to vote for them. They're not a threat and they're really nice.
Merge happens. It's a reward challenge.
Old contestants compete to return. Amelie and Hannah return.
Marissa is voted out because she's seen as a threat. She and Anastasia become a couple in the end. This gives Anastasia strength to compete further.
Ivy is voted out because I can't really see her making it much farther.
Spencer is out. The twist would not involve Diego because I feel like he'll hold off the showmance like Bowie. I think the twist will involve Jade. She and him are bottom 2, Jade is out, then she pulls out the immunity idol, causing Spencer to be the one out. OR it can be that Spencer betrays Jade and finds out she has clues to an immunity idol. We can see him holding the paper in the intro. He uses it to avoid elimination, but it turns out the idol was fake. It was either always fake or Jade planted a fake one.
Amelie is out. The only reason she returned, writing wise, was to show her character development. Lynda and Ted are the ones behind her elimination.
Anastasia is next out. Like Amelie, Lynda and Ted are the reason she's out.
Hannah is next out. She returned to help other contestants see what they really need. Possibly towards Jade to show that her friendship with Spencer is more valuable than the money. Or possibly to other contestants.
Ted is eliminated. Lynda betrays him.
Jade is eliminated. I feel like she's too obvious of a winner, so I don't think she'll win.
Isabel is eliminated. Side note, I don't think she'll be a twist villain or evil, but just a really good strategist.
Zaid is eliminated. He's a deserving winner and probably has the best reason for the money, but I can't see him winning.
Lynda mentions she's a reality TV show fanatic and I imagine she'll be a good strategist, which is why she's so far. But, I don't think DC will have another villain winner.
Diego is the winner. He'll probably be a strong social player and also a physical one, which explains why he got so far. Plus, we already got two female contestant wins, and just one male one; so having Diego winning will even it out.
Final Boot Predictions:
20. Alessio (canon)
19. Benji
18. Logan
17. Richard
16. Hannah
15. Amelie
14. Natalia
!Merge!
!Amelie and Hannah return!
13. Tristan
12. Marissa
11. Ivy
10. Spencer
9. Amelie
8. Anastasia
7. Hannah
6. Ted
5. Jade
4. Isabel
3. Zaid
2. Lynda
1. Diego
Old Boot Predictions before I saw episode 2:
18. Alessio
17. Logan
16. Benji
15. Amelie
14. Hannah
13. Richard
12. Natalia
11. Zaid
10. Tristan
9. Ted
8. Spencer
7. Marissa
6. Ivy
5. Anastasia
4. Diego
3. Isabel
2. Lynda
1. Jade
(I forgot there can be returnees)
I know there's 26 episodes and I only predicted a few, but let's say that the others are reward challenges.
These predictions are probably going to end up wrong anyways because I'm horrible at predicting stuff. š
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