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As other industry people have stated, the PCIE slots for specialist A/V cards might have been useful when M1 Studio launched but because it wasn’t, a lot of those devices were either replaced with TB3 versions or they got put in a Ext box, so the Mac Pro audience is now even smaller than it would have been.
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That fan going all loud is a pretty common practice with server hardware actually, to ensure chip doesn't overheat since you removed the case and possibly might remove airflow shrouds.
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0:30 what a great way to show the different chips in all the configs of the different machines!!
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It exists so that the Mac Studio can seem like a good purchase
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My PowerMac G5 Quad does the same thing with the fans if you open the case with it running. It's because the internals are designed around individual thermal chambers and the airflow is no longer directed properly if you open the case, so it speeds up the fans to account for that.
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The old G5 cheese grater towers would spin up the fans to max if you took the side cover off with it running as well... It's a safety thing to make sure it gets airflow when the fans are partially blocked, or in the case of the G5 when the side panel was off and the air wasn't directed around the components as designed.
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The problem with those PCIe slots is that it may well offer 8 PCIe slots, but the M2 doesn't have nearly enough PCIe lanes to drive all those slots directly. So instead those slots are behind PCIe switches and effectively share bandwidth with each other. (Like old 4-way SLI motherboards on the PC side used to do).
Which for Marques's use case isn't too bad because he's only going to use 1 16x card. (the bigger problem there is the slots only being PCIe4 when intel has been shipping PCIe5 for almost 2 years now)
but if you're some broadcasting customer like many in the comments keep bringing up as the intended use case for this machine you are in for a rude awakeing.
Because those customers rely on their 4k capture cards not fighting for bandwidth with their 100gb network card and their fiber connection to the SAN.
Same goes for any audio engineers that want to put their PCIe based audio gear for their 2019 Mac pro rack version into this machine. Those PCIe switches basically need to turn off the PCIe lanes for one card for a tiny fraction of a second to give the other card access and vice versa. That introduces latency and any form of latency is an absolute killer for any professional audio workflow.
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Shot in the dark: because it took longer than expected and they have a direct product cannibalising it, I’m going to assume that they did have a faster, bigger chip for it that they couldn’t get to work; this being their fallback.
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For those wondering just what kind of sound cards you might put in an M2 Mac Pro. AVID HDX cards are hugely important to film and television post production where 2-3 Mac Pros will be connected together with these cards to provide all the low latency audio processing necaseary for mixing movies and TV. There are also other high bandwidth (128+ channel) MADI / Sync cards that allow composers to offload some of the work of virtual orchestras to secondary machines. There may not be many customers for this product but the ones that do exsist are likely to be buying multiple if not fleets of these for studios and workspaces
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You always make nice clean videos man, crisp, beautiful and the info I’m looking for. Thank you!
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The server version did the fan thing. It's to keep some air flow since the lid seal is broken. It was designed for Intel rack mount Mac Pro.
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Tons of TV and local news stations across the country have been waiting for this new Mac Pro to drop. They load them up with AJA cards for capture and fiber cards for their SAN. I worked for a company that setup these Macs at hundreds of these locations across the US. This system is a big deal for them.
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For those who didn’t watch throughout, at 5:09 he says it exists just for PCI slots so there ya go
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Howzit bud ! Major fan of your pure reviews ! Keep doing what you doing my man ! Stay safe !
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Love the MacPro - I have used the older G3’s, G4’s and G5’s but with the current lineup I finally do not need the Apple Silicone MacPro - it feels quite weird to not see a tower in the space. Although it would be nice to use and I do like some of the expansion cards available, but the cost and the speed of the studio make it a better fit. I know some colleagues would prefer the MacPro just for the expanded internal storage as having a dedicated external array is an issue when on location - having it all in one case makes for less carry and worry. Thanks for your continued coverage - enjoy the channel and your frank assessments.
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10:50 thats what a lot of server chassis do to keep the dust and other debris out i think
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When you try to take the case off the Mac Pro, it ramps up the fans to make sure air flows over the parts it needs to while being in the open air. It’s similar to blowing down a tube at something far away vs blowing at it in the open. You need to blow harder in the open.
And the last one actually did do that. I believe Snazzy Labs was one of the first to discover that when he hacked the case off it while keeping it plugged in.
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Excellent, well-reasoned review and justification for your upgrade (that Storage Card is a Beast!) Thanks!
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The G5's used to crank the fans when the clear plastic cover that guided the air flow wasn't totally sealed against the frame. I don't know if it was some sort of air pressure sensor or just a pressure switch that the tabs on the cover would hold down, but basically, it was to keep people from running the Mac with the door off which totally messed with the thermals.
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@MrJ3
10 months ago
Because it has the biggest Apple logo.
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