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Conversation with Macken Murphy
Ā Ā Ā ā¢Ā TalkingĀ manosphereĀ mythsĀ andĀ realĀ sci...Ā Ā
00:00 Banger intro
01:11 The Manosphere is big business.
08:13 We still don't understand the manosphere.
19:54 What kind of man are you?
40:09 Incels make the world go round.
01:02:33 The other side of the game.
01:26:17 So what can be done?
Edited by @TheZatzman
Intro and transition graphics by @NeedlessNick
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@NoahSamsen
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featuring vocal performances by
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References
1- Mapping manosphere- Han, X., & Yin, C. (2023). Mapping the manosphere. Categorization of reactionary masculinity discourses in digital environment. Feminist media studies, 23(5), 1923-1940.
2- Networked misogyny - www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/14680777.2022ā¦
www.michaelmessner.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/ā¦
3- Leaving the manosphere- www.tandfonline.com/doi/epdf/10.1080/1057610X.2023ā¦
4- Liu, A. (2021). MRAsians: A Convergence between Asian American Hypermasculine Ethnonationalism and the Manosphere. Journal of Asian American Studies 24(1), 93-112. doi.org/10.1353/jaas.2021.0012.
www.adl.org/resources/blog/two-years-ago-they-marcā¦
5- AIN paper - datasociety.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DS_Alteā¦
6- Levels of wellbeing for Incels - labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2023/04/LevelsofWellā¦
7- You tube radicalization study - www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073/pnas.2101967118
8- Online radicalization argument - www.researchgate.net/profile/Joe-Whittaker-2/publiā¦
9- Car killer story - www.cincinnati.com/story/news/local/northern-ky/20ā¦
10- (radicalization is overblown but you tube is to blame) www.science.org/doi/pdf/10.1126/sciadv.adk2031
11-journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09567976211036065
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Top Comments of this video!! :3
"a lot of these people were shitty before they found andrew tate" - YES, TY, NOT ALL OF US ACCIDENTALED OUR WAY INTO A NAZI PHASE, THAT SHIT IS NOT JUST SOME NORMAL TEENAGE RITE OF PASSAGE
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Theres this quote I love from Brennan Lee Mulligan, quoting his professor:
"... people are not motivated by ideological codes. People are motivated by impulse and construct ideological codes to justify and rationalize what they were already going to do. An old professor of mine had this great thing. He said, āOn the level of individuals and civilizations, personality predates ideology.ā Meaning that before you were a fascist, you were a bully and an asshole".
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25y/o, Iām AFAB, but my 49y/o MARRIED dad has been listening to and repeating a lot of manosphere stuff in recent years. This man has 3 daughters and a wife (plus my brother who has thankfully not fallen for this bs), and any time Iāve tried to push back on his rhetoric he just goes on about how I donāt understand and then he just walks away while Iām mid-sentence. He speaks to my mother like sheās a toddler. He says rude shit about my little brother for not being āmasculineā enough. He just sits at the kitchen table, drinking and watching ātriggered libs,ā Andrew Tate, and other misogynistic creators like JLP all day and ignores or condescends to us all day.
I truly feel like the manosphere (among other ideologies) has stolen my dad from us.
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It's crazy how normal teenage insecurity was monetized and SEVERELY enhanced....dystopian as fuck.
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23 Year old lonely bitter dude here, got into the whole redpill and manosphere stuff when I was 19 because I was bitter that I wasnt desired by people. Only thing it made me was more bitter and depressed because I was everything the manosphere says women despise. Short, brown, funny accent, weird eyes, weird nose and a weird smile. Took me a while to get out of it but I did eventually. Still dont like myself BUT at least Im not as bitter as i was. It was your videos on the manosphere and some others that got me to start questioning it. Im just ranting at this point but your videos were great help to get me out of that weird circle
(Ps I'm Pakistani and English isn't my first language so I apologize if some parts don't make sense, trying my best)
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If there is ONE THING I have been able to be proud of myself for, itās that I NEVER got into the manosphere despite my depression, low self esteem and worsening mental health. I knew that, despite my suffering, to be arrogant and blame my suffering on others was a delusion. I found the problems from within.
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As a young black man in my early twenties trying to figure out how to be a good traditional masculine man without a dad, i was completely sucked into the manosphere when covid hit back in 2020. After years of watching that content i used to be very prejudice of women because I believed the rhetoric that was being given to me by the creators in that space. It wasnāt until recently when i stoped watching the content and all of the rage bait and started to improve my social skills that I realized how much of a negative mindset i used to have. Iām so grateful that there are creators like F.D signifier who make these great video essays to explain just how much damage the manosphere is doing. Thank you mr. Signifier for your hard work šš¾
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As a lonely guy who struggles to meet people and navigate romance... I think a lot of guys forget how many women are in that exact same situation and how little they are being listened to.
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āMen these days are too feminineĀ discourse stretches back to the 1800sā
Michel Foucault traces it back even further, to ancient greece, where one writer complained about young men of his day indulging in āfeminineā expressions such as theatre and dance.
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what's crazy to me when they talk about incels is how men can acknowledge that it's a human need to have sex and yet in the same breath can say that women deserve to die in pregnancy BECAUSE SHE HAD SEX and that is her fault..... make it make sense.
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It just occured to me the other day that creating insecurity in order to exploit people is a really fundamental form of evil in the human experience, and it has always had it's forms in all the past eras, and how many "traditional masculine roles" like soldiers and factory workers have also been forms of exploitation of insecurity - and the irony is that so many people think those roles are how things should be. Naah, you just got socialized into the idea, and are now suffering from a stockholm syndrome.
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thank you for addressing the autism side of this conversation. iām an autistic woman and iāve been so frustrated about how the āautistic school shooterā image has damaged our community this past decade.
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Five years ago I found out about my wifeās many infidelities throughout our fifteen year marriage. I was completely traumatized. I was working through my recovery and stumbled upon MGTOW content. It was really easy to fall into the trappings of those ideas because I was so hurt.
Fortunately my affair recovery program and therapists pushed back on these ideas and I didnāt stay in there too long so I empathize with men who fall into because itās very enticing when you feel so broken. When you feel like youāre not enough.
Today Iām much healthier and Iām grateful for content like this because it helps me from falling back into the trappings of manosphere ideas and rhetoric.
F.D, you are appreciated
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His salary buys less, but his pride begs him to say, āThe woman in my life doesn't have to work, and I like it that way.ā What he really may mean is that although his harem has only one occupant at a time, he does not want her wandering about too freely without the veil that the home provides. He is not nearly as secure in his masculine role as he would have others believe, and he allows his mateās growing independence to threaten him emotionally.ā
Menās Liberation Jack Nichols 1975
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I've never been the type of man who tried to show I was a man by dominating woman...and it never made me less of a man...your manhood isn't measured by dominating others, but by standing on principle, standing up for what's right, and taking care of your family...
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As a short man with Aspergerās, I spent most of my twenties being depressed and bitter that I wasnāt desired by women. My brother often advised me to watch videos by pickup artists, etc. But I was never really interested in that stuff. Just seemed like a con to me.
Anyway, a few years ago I met a woman by chance through Instagram, after I started posting music vids. We texted back and forth and became friends and eventually started dating. I was 34 and honestly never expected that somebody would love me, but she really seemed to.
And whilst it boosted my self esteem for a short time, it didnāt completely heal me in the way I imagined a relationship would. I still struggled with depressed, and anger, and was still insecure about my masculinity. These battles are ongoing.
I suppose Iām saying to anybody who is struggling like I was, donāt count yourself out yet, new people can come into your life at any time, probably when youāre not expecting it.
And also, a relationship doesnāt fix you. I donāt really know what fixes a person, but I donāt think it comes from an external place.
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I moved home when covid hit in 2020 and immediately noticed my 12 yr old brother slipping into manosphere content. He was the only child living at home but still neither of our parents noticed despite my dad being very aware of incels bc he was a cop and they had to do trainings on the community. What you said about passive parenting of boys is incredibly true. The second I started questioning him and actively engaging with him in a serious way, initiating conversations about his thoughts and beliefs a lot of what he was learning began to crumble. Heās 16 now and has a really sweet girlfriend. He recently mentioned ābefore u moved back I think I was going down the alt right pipelineā and I realized that even tho I was putting in a lot of work to educate him, because I was questioning him and challenging him as an equal he didnāt see it as lecturing he saw it as discussion that allowed him to come to his own conclusions. I explained that I noticed, was worried about him, and really cared about how he was feeling since it was a sign to me that he was feeling some type of turmoil. We kind of laughed about it but honestly Iām happy that we can talk it out now in reflection rather than as something that continued to grow and fracture our relationship.
Whenever friends complain about statements boys in their families make I always ask how theyāre engaging with it. Maybe people say that they donāt. I know that there is a line with harm but these boys are our community. They need to be payed attention to and they need to be cared about!
I hope this makes sense it kinda makes me tear up reflecting on this time but Iām really proud of him and all the other boys who worked hard to question their worldview and came out the other side to something better ā¤
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I'm a clinical mental health counselor who works with 16-24 year olds. And most if my male clients will at least reference the manosphere as a positive source of information. Some of my female clients are dating some of those same pro-manosphere guys and are in psychologically abusive relationships. They are property to be dominated and ran.
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Yooooo HAHAHA THE THUMBNAIL HAS ME DYING
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@pedroportillo1585
2 months ago
A profesor at the University of Indiana once told me, āFathers are raising their sons for a world that no longer exists.ā That really got me thinking.
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