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People gas up Ghetsis but his only exceptional trait is that he stole the spotlight from a villain who's more interesting than him.
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Don't misunderstand though, this was intentional. Ghetsis is a master manipulator. He had half of team plasma believing they were truly doing the right thing under N. His team was designed to counter N should he rebel.
While he may not be as direct against the player as others, it makes him all the more menacing and mysterious when you finally battle him. He's not there to take over the world in a rematch battle. You already fought N for that.
No. He's battling you because he HATES you. He despises you and everything you stand for. He's willing to discard N if he has to, and right now his only goal isn't world domination. It's to kill you.
The other evil leaders only fight you because you stand in their way of accomplishing their goal. Ghetsis does it because he wants you dead. So much so in BW2 he actually attempts to murder the player ON SCREEN. In ultrasun and ultramoon, he even threats to murder another child after losing to you.
N being the face of team plasma is intentional, allowing you to still understand that ghetsis is the true leader as he is the one giving speeches, commands, goals, and is who people report to. He isn't as direct as other evil leaders, because he is a manipulator. He wants to rule, but needs to convince the masses first.
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N was a compassionate and decent character, Pokemon typically doesn't really want to delve into morally gray. Bad guys can be 'mistaken' or make poor judgement calls sure, but when one character does legitimately good and bad things, while having a justifiable motivation... It makes you question whether stopping him is right.
Ghetsis however is straight up EVIL, you feel no compassion or problem with beating him into the ground. There's no moral quandary to be had, no question that taking him out is going to make YOU the bad guy, in short they needed an irredeemable Villain to do the truly horrendous shit, so that N could keep his hands clean and be shown HIS way wasn't the ONLY way, and well, be redeemed, while still having a source of a genuine threat that needed to be Heroically Shut down for the player to accomplish something.
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I mean for a region based on America having the True villain be someone who is essentially using a belief system that he preaches for his own ends propping up people who genuinely believe in it to give him credibility while he believes in none of it only using it for personal gain seems pretty accurate.
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I wouldnt say he in N's shadow as much as he stays back being the puppet master to N's puppet
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Being in N's shadow? How much actual villainy does N even do in this game?! He acts more like a third rival than anything else. Ghetsis however is present at a respectable number of evil team incidents for a Pokemon villain and even technically present as a villain not long after N shows up in the form of a mere illusion terrifying his own grunts. And yeah he makes those moments with N accidental and meaningless, because they were! They were quite literally manufactured at the hands of Ghetsis by brainwashing N into thinking he's doing a good thing! N's life up until this point was a lie thanks to Ghetsis, along with his entire cause. You said it yourself: he's the leader of a cult! He exploits the naive who spend all their time arguing about petty personal truths and ideals instead of paying attention to reality right in from of them.
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Bro, like, what? Ghetsis raised N, he’s his adoptive father. In N’s mind, Ghetsis AND pokemons are the only things who don’t hate him. N grew up as a child being hated by EVERYONE just cause he could talk with pokemons, so it’s normal and logical that N respects Ghetsis so much that he shuts up and doesn’t stand up to him in the finale of B1W1, you know, humans’ psychology work that way.
Ghetsis is a true evil villain who used his son as a tool to get all of Unova’s population to release their pokemons so he could rule the entire region, while his son would’ve lived with the eternal illusion that his father had “freed” all pokemons. Ghetsis was just a perfect villain with a SENSIBLE goal (unlike other pokemon villains), willing to do ANYTHING to reach it
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Ghetsis really was a special grade yapper
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One thing i do love about him is that his team counters N's team, its obvious that he was poised to betray and kick n to the curb as soon as they succeeded
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I mean he was kinda doing a Palpatine. Manipulation to get power without actually doing anything. A pure evil villain and that was the last time we saw a truly evil villain in Pokemon.
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Ghetsis is not an average villain. He planned everything from the start. He manipulated everyone in the region into thinking team plasma is just pokemon peta.
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But like, that's his whole point. Being the puppeteer to N who he abuses and uses for his goal. It would be weird if he appeared more often than the person he made the face of team Plasma.
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I uses to hate Ghetsis for similar reasons, but thinking about it more...
I think it’s impressive how horrific it is to have someone manipulate the populace by questioning the whole Pokemon Battling shit just so he can leave the region completely defenseless, all the while manipulating & grooming this random Orphan he found once.
Fun Fact: In BW2 specifically, his Signature Hydreigon has Max Power Frustration, it's a very subtle, yet powerful story-to-gameplay integration by showing how evil Ghetsis is.
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To be fair though, Ghetsis’ actual plan is probably the smartest out of any evil team’s. Humanity in the Pokémon universe relies on Pokémon for so many things, so manipulating the public en masse into releasing their most powerful weapon by pulling on their heartstrings leaving only them with said weapon is kind of brilliant.
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I don’t think N is better than Getchis, kind of the opposite. It’s true that N served as main villain over the hole game, but all his narrative is pointless from the start. For almost each interaction you had with N, there appears another character to contradict him when he had gone. The game doesn’t try a single time that you really believe N's discourse until the end, and the final character to contradict N is Getchis. Getchis is also presented as an evil guy from almost the start, as how he is willing to do anything if that means people let go their pokémon.
And it also serves a good narrative based of the real world politicians. While N is the protester, who believes in a good cause in that point of fighting or arguing others who aren’t thinking the same, Getchis represents the evil politicians who uses this good cause to gain as much power as it’s posible. To be honest, it can be any leader of a movement, not just political, like a cult, but politics makes more sense to me as the champion is kind of a “ruler” of everything in the region. I think that’s a great villain concept for a children franchise.
Sorry for bad english, I’m not native speaker.
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Honestly Ghetsis could have worked as a power hungry evil baddy irredeemable monster villain had he been SHOWN doing evil things, and, as you said in the video, not shut N down. Instead Ghetsis was mostly a mouthpiece for the moral rather than a true threat.
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Ghetsis's plan ultimately lacked the punch, presence & distinction from N's to be worth having him take over the finale as the final opponent.
He doesn't even appear all that much for most of the game. We don't see enough his indirect malign influence to imply that this man would be the grand manipulator instead of getting lucky.
If they would have been competent enough to write intrigue, maybe Ghetsis would have worked as the main overarching villain of the duology.
What we have now though is undoubtedly the most evil villain in the mainline games who is ultimately curbstomped by many of the spin off villains in terms of quality. This guy certainly ain't the grand manipulator everyone makes him out to be.
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very nice analysis on how they couldve fleshed out more from both of them
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He has a good theme at least lol
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It kinda makes sense for Ghestsis to shut down N given the fact that not only has the man been feeding and setting this kid up to be a puppet ruler, it's the main fact that if N rebelled his team of mons can ruthlessly hard counter N's team. If anything, N lives in fear of this guy for a legitimate reason
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@baolongleuc2588
7 months ago
Ghetsis, in my opinion, is a true villain. He rarely uses brutal force like Giovanni and some other villains. He uses other people's beliefs. He stays in the shadow, manipulating everyone without them knowing. He uses N as a tool to influence others by promoting N into a "dummy king" so he can take N's ability to talk to Pokemon as an advantage to "brainwash" team Plasma. Sometimes, there's some people who try to get into team Plasma's way, Ghetsis will get rid of them, but he won't be the person who do it. To sum up, in my opinion, Ghetsis is the type of villain who uses beliefs and religions to control people instead of using brutal force like other bosses. His goal is also the worst and the most selfish of all the villains(only under Giovanni, but. I still think Giovanni's not that evil).
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