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Alex: "Where the hell is the triangle?!"
- Plato has entered the chat...
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The hard problem of consciousness and surrounding issues are being taken seriously by serious philosophers, yet the comment section seems to think there is no issue here.
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The 'triangle' (or rather the data that makes up the triangle) is still there even without a screen. That data is then just mapped onto something that we can perceive. So yes when you 'cut open' a computer, you will find what it is displaying on the screen. Assuming by 'cut open' you mean taking a look at what is happening 'under the hood'.
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I'm part of your comments section and my opinions are garbage.
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hey, at least we have hundreds of experts in the comment section to explain it
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'Is an image of a pineapple a real pineapple?' - Taskmaster.
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Dude, include a link to the full video when you do these clips.
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I would take it another step further and not just focus on the existence of the triangle (which one could argue is reducible), but on the existence of the experience of seeing the triangle. The experience cannot be reducible
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1. Eat orange
2. Taste buds send electric signals to brain
A. Remember eating orange
B. Brain replicates electric signals of the original experience
Repeating 1-2 improves the fidelity of A-B (adjusted by the settings of your hardware: Gustatory Aphantasia <-> Gustatory Hyperphantasia)
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Your brain is essentially a java runtime compiler.
Riddle solved.
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Consciousness is the ability to sense stimuli and respond to it. A pulley has a rudimentary form of consciousness. A plant, more complex, with more capability to sense and respond to stimulus, has a more complex form of consciousness. A human, whose mind is extremely complex with the ability to sense stimulus, respond to it, recreate it in a controlled virtual environment (which is created by the process of sensing and responding to stimulus itself), respond to it, etc. has a yet more complex form of consciousness. There's no reason to believe consciousness is anything other than the processes that can fundamentally be boiled down to stimulus and response in patterns of varied complexity.
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The answer to this question is that the triangle does not exist as a triangle. Even when displayed on the screen it is just a pattern of light and darkness. This argument requires that the triangle have some essence such that it really exists in your mind or in a computer, but it doesn’t.
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Your neurons are like the memory the triangle is read from so it can be displayed on the monitor. When you close your eyes (and not have a-phantasia) you can 'read' your own memory banks, like a computer would.
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I was expecting Alex to give some cheap answer. I was pleasantly surprised. He just sat in the difficulty and accepted it as a downside of materialism. Respect.
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Consciousness isn't spatial, there is no "where" to talk about. Space and matter on the other hand, are spatial.
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I am a Christian based on how I see the universe. I LOVE how Alex thinks. He is genuine and curious. Really amazing!!
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This is like saying video games = credible refutation of materialism. If you cut into a GPU you're not going to find <video game object>, you're going to find <GPU hardware and components>. Exact same thing.
If you understand how the GPU represents a triangle to the monitor and can de-code that, and have the time to spend looking across the transistors to find where the triangle is being generated, you would physically be able to do so. I believe that this is what people mean when they say the triangle you're speaking of can be reduced to a place in the brain. It's not a triangle in your brain, it is the code for how a triangle is represented to your conscious awareness.
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The mind is a manifestation of a physical state, the triangle is there as an arrangement of synapses being on and off.
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You need to interview Benardo Kastrup on your podcast.
Would be amazing!
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@pierrot-baptistelemee-joli820
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Unplug the computer screen and you have the same situation. You know there is the concept of a triangle in the computer since you just saw it on the screen. But without the screen, where does that triangle go? Well with the computer, we know it’s there as a complex sequence of binaries that are probably stored as physical little switches that are either <<on>> or <<off>> somewhere in the computer’s physical hardware.
Why would it be so hard to imagine the same thing happens with the human brain? The triangle is nearly certainly somewhere inside the brain, physically encoded through complex electrical impulses that we are not yet able to decode. But had we that knowledge of precisely how the brain encoded information, we could probably display that information on some kind of screen, like we do with computers. I don’t find that hard to imagine at all.
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