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Five Nights at Freddyâs Help Wanted 2 has finally released, and with it come a lot of questions. One of these questions has been if the gravestones in Princess Quest 4 mean that Charlie Emily died after the other missing kids that William Afton killed. But is that even possible?
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I think Charlie is last because she rests last, as in Happiest Day, everyone is free, but Charlie's mask falls on the floor last. It could also be that Charlie has to rest last because her "job" is to make sure that the others have life, etc.
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Just reverse the order, call Chica a liar and all is good
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Another piece of evidence is that in fnaf 6 graves, Charlie is in the back while the missing kids are in front. Also the graves in fnaf 6 are also in the same order as in hw2 besides Charlie and maybe Cassidy, but Cassidy is definitely different than the others so idk. And Charlie in both games is in the same placement, the top left in the back
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This has been bothering me more than it probably should. Charlie being the first victim is pretty much the only thing weâre been sure of in the FNAF timeline since Puppet debuted. That line of thinking also weirdly counts her as one of the MCI even though she was an unrelated event. I kinda figure her placement in the puzzle is purely meant to represent her grave on the hill (which, again, still separated from Williamâs other direct victims).
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Good points, but to play devil's advocate here, if we are to follow the logic of the missing kids dying first, then the existence of the security puppet makes a lot more sense.
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This order could work because Henryâs line could be meant about something else like Fall-Fest. Fall-Fest has shown up more recently and is shown to take place in 1970.
To your other point the puppet is the only animatronic that immediately possesses an animatronic. Therefore puppet doesnât necessarily need to be before the MCI and could have been moved to that location shortly after the MCI and then it could give gifts/give life.
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perhaps it is the order in which they "moved on"? Chica, foxy, freddy and bonnie prolly moved on first, don't know if that order really matters, cassidy moved on next after doing UCN and charlie being last, if she even did move on yet
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It is possible they didnât instantly possess the animatronics and were killed first but when Charlie died she was able to help the wandering spirits
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Someone made an interesting observation under MatPat's gameplay of Help Wanted 2. Death order =/= possesion order. Because if you thing about it, Puppet was meant to be a security animatronic. Why would Freedy's needs such a thing if nothing bad was happening in there? That's why I thing Charlie was the last kid to die, but the first one to posses an animatronic and then she gave life to others.
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Either A: the order means something else, which requires a good explanation of what that is
Or B: the things you brought up need to be addressed if this is the actual death order. In terms of Henryâs speech, he might be referring to an earlier wound, maybe something before any deaths that was a warning sign he missed.
As for the give gifts/give life situation, I think Alone Together gives a possible solution. The MCI kids are lost until Charlie is able to guide them to their bodies. The âgiftâ was meant to be closure, but that wasnât what they wanted. So instead they received life, in the form of possessing the animatronics.
Until Charlie died, their bodies were unfound, which apparently leads to confusion in ghosts not realizing they are dead.
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this is the order of their souls being released, it's the same order as in fnaf 3 where souls appear in the happiest day minigame after completing minigames
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Back in 2015, Scott said that fans got the first three games right. Almost all theorists before FNaF 4 considered the soul in the Puppet to be the first victim.
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âWoundedâ is ambiguous and could mean anything(not to mention that the original idea could have been one thing and they decided to do something else).
The âgive gifts, give lifeâ could be explained by that the kids were not possessing the animatronics until Charlie guided them to their bodies(if they were stuffed) or showed them how to.
Idk, but I wouldnât write it off as impossible
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It was either John or RyeToast that had the theory that the order the kids graves are lit, represent the order each kid moved on.
It would make sense, because Charlie was the one that wanted all the kids to be put at rest, so she would move on after everyone else did. With Cassidy living on after Pizza Sim, Charlie waited until she could move on when Cassidy does. I donât think this is a retcon, but I wonât jump to the conclusion that this is a retcon.
The missing kids didnât die one by one, the newspaper clippings in FNAF 1 stated that 2 kids, then 3 were lured into the back room. Not all 5 at once.
While yes, UCN Withered Chica says she was the first, and has seen everything, does it really imply that she WAS the first to die, or the first to be brought to life by The Puppet?
Iâm pretty sure Scott even confirmed that Charlie was Williams first victim, so it wouldnât make sense for this new info to give us the idea that this is a retcon.
Obviously, this is probably something new, or maybe not. Iâd love to hear anyones thoughts and opinions to this? đ¤
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honestly Dawko was so genius on that, but amazing job IDsFantasy ! â¤
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My theory is that Princess Quest shows the canon order of William's victims in reverse
Yeah Chica says she was the first but she could be saying she was the first to get stuffed or the first to be possessed
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I was very confused when I saw the graves. It was always obvious to me that Charlie died first, cause it just makes much more sense. William going to the pizzeria and killing 5 random kids without hesitation? This just doesn't feel right for this character that early in this story. However him killing Charlie to take revenge on Henry and take from him the same thing he lost just sounds more likely.
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Maybe henry meant he was the first one to find out his kid was murdered and didn't just go missing. As for the mini game maybe the puppet died last but had the strongest anger so they awakened first and showed the others how to possess the suits. Also Chica made it clear she was the first which makes me think this is the case.
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My theory is that Henry can be the first to be wounded. If you look at it in a serial killer sense, that they can only connect the killing after a few cases. So maybe Charlie was the first murder to be linked to afton, making Henry the first to be wounded by the news, then after the other missing kids were connected to him, they would then uncover the proper order. That's just how I thought about it
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If you haven't seen it, make sure to check out my video about the story and endings of Help Wanted 2, linked as the Shorts related video!
So, what do you guys think is up with Princess Quest 4?
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