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Good old Phil Rudd. What a treasure hidden AC/DC has
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0:48 Wow, that sounds just like it!
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Also 'Hells Bells' speeds up too. But wow, what an amazing tune. True to your point.
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I've done 2 albums with my brother's band, and at every session, the drummer couldn't make it with the rest of the guys, so the drums had to be done later. We tracked the band live using a LinnDrum. When the drummer came in a few days later to overdub, he found the drum machine to be too distracting to play to, preferring a click instead.
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Wanna know what’s crazy? Pull some old Bob Marley into your DAW and try to time align it. It’s perfect. Idk if they were playing to a metronome, or if their drummer is that good, but it’s perfect.
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You are 10,000 percent correct. Depends on the genre. No right nor wrong. For those hating the click and not working in genres where it's required, I record hitting drum sticks together to a click then dump the click - ie; a real click track with human imperfection or if a cover,..to original song. No cheating with copy/paste. The whole song as some of us are stubborn, lol.
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I always say "find your own tempo!" And by that I mean finding the way echo pedals decay, or the way a note has fret buzz, and lean into it. Looper pedals are another great way, as the end loop determines the feel but the notes or beats within may not be exact timing in and of themselves.
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I still use the old Caz Chandler trick of recording starting off with using the bass player to play the track through & record it. I then move on to good old stamping feet following the bass track. Then I re record stamping feet & clapping. The more people involved the merrier. I like to catch foot stamping in multiple environments to capture the sound of the room, hall or stairwell. This technique worked for Slade & gave them the most #1 songs in the UK charts in the 70s. If you look at any Slade Live videos they will be stomping on the stage floor to get that huge sound live. No pretentious Persian rugs required lol 😂
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Wow, you’re right, I’m playing a metronome to Back in Black and even within the first couple of measures it goes way off tempo
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I was always taught that those who need a click, usually can't play to one and those who can play to a click usually don't want, or need one.
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I’ve noticed a lot of bands these days don’t even consider using a click track. In some ways it makes the editing easier, but I would bet that it makes editing MORE necessary. When a drummer naturally lays back a transition to a more chill section, he has to rush the next measure to get back on the click, which Does Not Groove. The same thing happens within measures.
I also tell clients that if they want to record to a click they should rehearse to a click, because it is not the same at all, which can really add to the Red Light Syndrome
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A problem I have is constantly adjusting tempos to songs. I’ll listen to a mix and sometimes it sounds really slow, and sometimes it sounds too fast, often depending on the time of day
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I use a repeating drum loop if I'm recording an artist on a song that needs a tempo foundation. Much more inspiring for the artist than a click track. Most of the songs I produce are more folk based with simple mixes of just vocal and piano or guitar. I rarely add any kind of tempo guide to those types of songs...
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Start the song with a click track, then shut it off once they get going.
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I used a click for a very very very long time, a practiced to metronomes to develop my timing, and every song I ever recorded or produced was to a click.
That all changed when I was recording a friend's band. I had seen them live a number of times, I watched them rehears and they sounded great. Doing prepro for one of their tracks none of them knew the tempo of the song; that's not too strange honestly, but none of them could even feel out the tempo. The guitarists started the songs so I had him start playing like he always does, and I set the click to that speed. The second the drums came in, they all thought it felt wrong. So we adjusted again, and that threw off the intro. This happened allllll over this track.
Finally, I told them to go play the song live and just had the drummer hit the hi-hat when he isn't playing. One take, we nailed the drums, and with hi-hats acted as a way to keep time during times the drummer wasn't playing.
I've seldomly used a click ever since.
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Well spoken.
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Musicians that aren't used to the click sound are sometimes really allergic to it. But give them the sound of hitting drumsticks together instead and it's suddenly all cool.
I am really happy that my DAW allows for practically any sound to be used for the metronome.
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I sampled my hi-hats from the drum kit and use that as a click. It's more forgiving when recording vocal tracks.
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Lesson learned don't tell the fuzz. What's on the play list. 🎉
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@rome8180
1 month ago
I far prefer to play to programmed drums than a click. It doesn't have to be the exact final drum part. It just has to have the right feel. A click has no feel. I agree with Steve Albini, who said "Playing to a click is like driving with a cop behind you."
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