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Main Content:
Understanding Pascal's Wager:
Explain the wager as posited by Blaise Pascal, a 17th-century philosopher and mathematician.
Break down the four possible outcomes of the wager regarding belief in God and the existence of God.
The Rational Argument for Belief:
Present the argument that believing in God is a safer bet because of the potential infinite gain (heaven) and no real loss if proven wrong.
Contrast this with non-belief, which risks potential infinite loss (hell) with no gain even if one is correct.
Critiques and Counterarguments:
Address common criticisms of Pascal’s Wager such as the false dichotomy of the 50/50 chance, the sincerity of belief, and the assumption of which god to believe in.
Discuss the notion that living a life in faith could be seen as a loss from a non-believer’s perspective (e.g., missed opportunities, living under certain restrictions).
Faith Beyond the Wager:
Argue that faith for many is not merely a strategic bet but a profound, personal conviction that enriches life, irrespective of the wager.
Highlight the importance of respect and understanding in dialogues between believers and non-believers.
Conclusion:
While Pascal's Wager presents a simplistic yet thought-provoking framework for the rationality behind belief in God, the essence of faith often transcends the confines of logical constructs. Belief in God is not simply a cosmic bet for many, but a way of finding meaning, purpose, and connection in life. Whether one is a believer or not, engaging in respectful, thoughtful discussions about faith and its place in human life is a mark of open-mindedness and intellect.
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There have been about 1000 gods throughout history. You don't believe in 999 of them. We just don't believe in one more.
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Now insert all the gods into this matrix and don't forget the ones that punish you more for believing the wrong god
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This issue here is that you are setting the probability of both things equally at 50% which if god existing was a coin flip I probably would convert back to Christianity. Just because only two outcomes exist doesn’t mean they are equally likely.
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This is called Pascals Wager...
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Way to turn an argument that contradicts your same statement and twist it to your favor.
By the same logic you just pointed out:
First: Faith is like buying a Ticket. We should only believing because we MAY get something in the end for it. There must be a reward.
Second: This doesn't enter into the logic of "if you dont believe in God, you will go to Hell". Why? Good people with good deeds go to Heaven, if the only requirement is to "believe", then most of the World's cruelest people are chilling in Heaven.
Anyways, there's no irrationality to being an Atheist just like there's no irrationality to being a Believer. Just let people be people.
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I'd rather live my eternity in hell than having be be with you people for the rest of my eternity
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To see Pascals Gambit promoted like its a good argument is absolutely hilarious. If anyone is ever concerned with why church membership is decreasing and atheism is on the rise, look no further than this video.
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You have defined rationality - that belief in god sends you to eternal bliss and non-belief sends one to eternal misery. Your rationality has defined things based on your definition of a deity. A "black" and "white" scenario, based strictly on belief or not in YOUR god. Many people would not define that as rational thinking. Quite frankly, many of us have come across a multitude of "believers" who one might question the justice of their enjoying an eternity of bliss. But, you are welcome to your definitions and beliefs. I will stay with my own.
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Jesus, you're dumb.
There are probably more than 4,000 religions in the world. each is convinced theirs is the true God. You'd have to worship the right God, and commit no sins to have an "afterlife of bliss".
If instead you'd divert all that energy to being a good human being -- maybe if there's a God - He would take that into account, and not if some old man spilled some water on your head when you were a baby, or if they cut your foreskin when you were 8 days old.
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We don’t choose what we believe, we are either convinced by the evidence (or lack thereof) or are not. I can’t choose to believe your God exists any more than you can choose to believe Vishnu exists.
And maybe there’s a God up there who values rationality and reason, knows there’s not enough evidence to believe it exists and sends all atheists to heaven…
Why don’t you choose NOT to believe? Aren’t you afraid of this god?
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If thats the case, I think I'll believe in Thor. What happens if I choose the wrong god?
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If this is on the basis of rationality ...What rational argument is there about the existence of God ?
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Has the intellectual debate surrounding theism and atheism not developed at all over the years? Also, just because there are two options does not mean the odds are 50 / 50 unless you don't know anything at all about the subject.
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This is not the reason I believe in God, it's crazy to hear people say God must not be good. Believe me, if he wasn't the whole world would have no moral standards and evil empires would still be standing. Don't be ignorant. 💯
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This is what makes you irrational in your train of thought you may believe the wrong god then you lose
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If you've began your self education and already are making you first achievements, it's a good reason to be proud of yourself, but not a good reason to make smart face and teach people.
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So if I pretend I can trick god.....got it ty for teaching the world god is kinda gullible
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Ok what if you chose the wrong god out of a possible thousand different ones…?
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I love the plain logic in this. Trouble is, i could say that i believe in God it allah or whomever. But it doesn't change what the belief actually is. That said, the point me here is very interesting and to my is philosophically a conundrum.
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@detectiveprincegoroakechi4815
1 year ago
if this is the reason you believe in god then your not a true believer, you'd only believe because you get something out of it.
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