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If you're gonna defend any aspect of this you're gonna need to realize that you're revoking any and all of my respect for that opinion.
If you bring up Xerosic, I will cry. If I'm presented with an unlabeled red button, and an unlabeled blue button, lock the doors and imply I'm morally culpable for what happens next, That's only true if what I do next is crack those shriveled little Leggy-Eggies and watch the yolk spill on the floor and throw my captor off the observation deck like a Proper Buddhist.
There are 6 topics I could've hyperfocussed on to talk about Lysandre and Team Flare. Player Agency, Offscreen Action, Aesthetic Nonsense, Character Shilling, Utopia Dissonance, just being totally morally disgusting, my god I cannot stand Gen 6.
But I wrapped this up with 4 frames to spare so I'm gonna have to settle for touching on 3 of those.
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XY plot in a nutshell: Kalos is too rotten, we have to keep our beauty together (the dude who lives in a utopic France), in short WE HAVE TO KILL EVERYONE BUT THE PEOPLE I LIKE!!! (Who are the only people doing anything bad in the game), the rival: you know maybe he has a point, maybe genocide isnt bad
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Lysandre's goals are noble, he wants to destroy france, I say we let him
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Player: Hey, nice to meet you sir.
Lysandre: This world is imperfect…
Player: What?
Lysandre: If only I could wipe away the imperfections…
Player: Is anyone hearing this?
Lysandre: And make it as beautiful as ME.
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Let’s keep in mind also they got some team Lysandre thinks it’s a good idea to use the machine while it only has some energy left and the only thing it accomplishes is him killing himself. *Team Flare everybody!*
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Tbh I love how he always says the most deranged things and everyone around him praising him like he said some profound shii 😭
The encounter in the Rouge Café and with Diantha are so funn
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Kind of interesting how three poke-villains in a row (Ghetsis, Lysandre, Lusamine) all had organizations that at least pretended they were doing the right thing
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Now that I think about it, maybe they could have used words like "noble" and "nobility" not as indicators of morality, but as signs of being born as a literal noble. Then replace the "non-beautiful" with "commoners" and you've already got a much better villain.
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No wonder XYZ anime became so loved. CAUSE X AND Y DID EXIST as far as they were Concerned
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Lysander in the anime had an actual motivation for what he did so it baffles me why game freak didn’t just copy what the anime was doing
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Fun personal fact!: When I first played this game when I was 10, I didn’t comprehend what his motives were nor cared about him that much. He was basically an orange blob in my head. When he did his big rant underground, I thought he was saying “Pokémon will no longer exist” aka his goals was to make the world our world basically.
And i thought “why would anyone do that? Pokémon are great!”
I thought his goals as a kid were very complex, but boiled down to “I want to kill all Pokémon”, and that made me wish his goals were instead “I want to kill all people” because that made more sense I guess.
So much so that I made my own Pokémon villain who was a false nihilist wanting to end humanity and let Pokemon reign.
The writing was so bad that a child could be convinced of the opposite being true as his villain motives.
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I think the X plot implies that he's trying to use it to create immortality and eternal youth for team flair and that he wants to trade an eternal world for the current fleeting one. Of course, Y on the other hand sees him power the weapon with a God of death so it can only go one way.
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His reveal somehow worked for my preteen cousins and I can't comprehend how besides genuinely ignoring his existence.
This is the main reason why I call him Lysandlewood to mock his writing stupidity, although oh man did Rose do the same thing and outstupid him. At least USUM realized he's more of a total nut.
Also it's kill everyone except the people rich enough to pay the cult fee to be considered beautiful or get a usefulness pass from him alone. Kinda stupider.
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If Lysandre's villian motivation was simply "This world is too peaceful and boring! I want chaos and destruction because that's exciting!", he would be a lot less flawed than what we actually got. Would it be cartoony? Probably, but it could work. But then again, all the characters would still look up to Lysandre so maybe I'm wrong.
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Even his team composition doesn't make sense. Imagine having a Pokémon that looks like you and is supposedly your ace (Pyroar), but the one who Mega Evolves is fucking Gyarados
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To this day I do not understand Lysanders motive
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BioShock Infinite came out the same year as Pokémon X and Y and was rightly criticized for both-sidesing a conflict where one side is openly racist and discriminatory. Being for kids just makes Pokémon worse.
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X and Y have been getting a lot of nostalgia-clouded love lately, and I honestly don't think they deserve it. They're deeply flawed experiences, and not just with Lysandre.
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One of the only props I'll give to the Ultra games is that they at least vaguely recognized what Lysandre actually was in-game and dropped any pretense of him having a point, and, intentionally or not (genuinely hard to tell with gamefreak, especially considering just how rushed they were/are in the 3D era), made a scathing skewering of Fascism by straight up making it canon that the USUM Lysandre won and killed all the billions of "undesirables"... And then he had to find a new enemy to fight because it solved nothing and he needed a new scapegoat before team flare collapsed in on itself.
Like, it is entirely something you have to read between the lines to see, that again, probably isn't intended, but the Fascist losing because they won is genuinely a deeper and more meaningful critique of the strongman ideology then most stories about how dumb and evil fascists are.
I would say i have my fingers crossed they do something with this perfect opportunity in Z-A, but i don't. Because they won't. So I'm not gonna set myself up for disappointment.
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They were trying WAY TOO FUCKING HARD!!!
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6 months ago
Gamefreak seems to be constantly divided between trying to do a subtle and relatively high concept villain, and then desperately making sure the 4 year olds in the audience understand the villain's deal and that he's evil and feel smart for understanding it so you end up with shit like this
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