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"Conditioned response" is being generous.
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Perfect excerpt. Props for clipping this. While the outro might push people towards a conclusion, there are several takes that can be taken from this.
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I once did this at a "revival" with one of those "Holy healers," where they put the Holy Spirit in you, and you fall down... yeah, I stood in line and watched as three or four people were touched and fell. When it came to me, I stood there for the longest time, and the guy kept yelling at me and shaking me until his last attempt, where he shook me pretty violently, so I decided to fall, just to get the hell away from him before he body slammed me or something. Afterward, I got up and sat down. After the sermon, I approached the pastor and questioned him as to why he was so violent with me. His words were, "God told me that you didn't really believe. So, I had to be forceful with you until you believed and let the Holy Spirit enter you. That's why you finally fell from his glory." I laughed in his face and told him that I fell by my own free will, so that I could get away from him, before he hurt me. He told me to never come back to his church. I haven't been to church since. I was 16 then, now 38.
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I remember towards the end of my time at church where I wasn't quite ready to admit that I didn't believe in God, but I definitely also couldn't say I REALLY believed either, and I was up on stage playing guitar in the worship band. We were playing a song with lyrics along the lines of "God, you are so good to us, so good, blah blah blah", and the whole time I'm thinking "oh yes, you're so good for saving us from the hell that you created specifically for us" and stuff like that.
Pretty sure it was shortly after that that I was finally able to admit to myself that I didn't believe at all.
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Yup. I could get people to "feel the spirit" so hard they'd be in tears. All while teaching from a pre-written lesson manual that I knew was full of garbage. It's what believers are there for, and it's easy to give them what they want.
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The fallacy of affirming the consequent.
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I was in one of 3 church bands in a large penticostal church for 12 years . The timing and system of the use of music during service always bothered me linked together with worship leading you use the music for the strongest "emotional response" ..its music !! thats what it always does!! ...i went with friends to a coldplay concert 60 thousand people singing together with coldplay an emotional experience many times more powerful than any penticostal service ..
The church has hijacked music and claims its "the presence of God"
No it isnt ....its the power of music
If its the presence of god then the coldplay concert was closer to God than any praise service could ever hope to be😅
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I had a similar experience before too, also as someone who used to be a worship leader. It’s allll complete bullshit. You can encounter those same kind of feelings in any setting where you’re surrounded by like minded people(echo chamber), it’s not proof of any god whatsoever.
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I cannot express how confused and overwhelmed I was growing up in a Christian private school. Every a Thursday we had long service and there were a bunch of teachers and stoodents crying, waving their arms in the air and speaking in tongues all around me. I thought it was weird, but also felt fear that I didn't experience it. I was a kid and kids are afraid. I was just following what the adults told me, even though unconsciously, I didn't believe. Emotional abuse at its finest.
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I was 36 when I got fed up with this nonsense. I could not play pretend one more minute.
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I love it. Thank you for thinking. I was 5 when the religious stuff made no sense. I could read most of the New Testament even though some of the words were beyond me—good thing. I asked questions in Sunday School and they had the nerve to keep sending me home. Gradually, over the next 5 years, I gave up believing in all myths (including religion), fairy tales, etc. At 10, I told my parents I no longer think all the supernatural stuff is real including the biblical god. My father wanted to punish and my mother told him to leave me alone and she bought me more science books. I rely on the scientific method, but that doesn’t give me permission to tell people what is real or isn’t. My brain tells me what is real, so I have no true empiric basis. If someone has a religious experience than that’s what they had—the probability that a supernatural being is the cause of it is extremely low. I think we live in an infinite multiverse and it is possible to have a universe inhabited by creatures beyond our understanding. I just don’t think it happens in this universe. Also, I’m not swayed by the possibility that a god (which one, there are so many) exists and that my eternal soul will be damned for not being a total asshat human then acquire a get of hell free card by loving the baby Jesus. If Yahweh is real then I’ve got an eternity to show everyone (maybe just the demons) what a conniving, tyrannical, jealous, hypocritical fake he is. And don’t get me started on Islam… Hinduism, I’m there for the never ending after life dance—heroes and villains choreographed for the ages. My goodness, I think I just had a spiritual out of body experience. Nope. Just my butt getting numb from sitting in one position.
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From an Orthodox Christian perspective i absolutely agree with this woman: so much Protestant 'worship' is all about the feelz but is spiritually empty.
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Hugh Marjoe Ross Gortner grew up as a Pentecostal preacher, was ordained at age 4. The documentary Marjoe (1972) revealed his regrets about all the fake stories, lies and the sales of fake "holy" or healing items. The congregants fell for his make-believe as they felt & believed the Holy Spirit was upon him.
If the Holy Spirit was real, you'd think it wouldn't also be blind & stupid!
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Blessed are the gullible, for they are easily bamboozled.
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I grew up in a sect of Pentecostalism where there was a belief that whatever you say to a "saint" would be verified by the Holy Ghost quickening them. I tested this theory by literally fabricating a vision/spiritual experience and telling 3 people one of which was my mother. I had braced myself for the rebuke of lying and telling tales, also had a ready made excuse...All 3 shouted and spoke in tongues. All 3 said the Spirit bore witness to my vision being true. THAT day I had already seen it as a sham, and it was the first major dealing I had with cognitive dissonance.
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When I was around 13, I was in a prayer circle with my family, and I suddenly had the inspiration to pretend to speak in tongues. They swore I was touched by the Holy Spirit.
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Sorry about your fake lousy church experience. I have also experienced much the sane.
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Thanks
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During my old job, I was at a cusgomers house and we started talking about the bible. Now with me being me and knowing what i know i started to teach her a little bit. After about 30 minutes or so the air was so thick you could literally move it with your hands, me feeling the spirit and knowing I had to leave to go to my next customers sadly I had to leave. She soon followed me outside in tears thanking me, so I hoped out of my van gave her a hug in which I thanked her. Very profound experience. All we did was talked to each other and brought in the holy spirit. No need to fake it, it is real just the holy spirit isnt in todays church as they took away the keys to the kingdom as they dont enter within and dont allow their congregation to also enter within saying it will bring about spirits in them. Yes it will but it is the holy spirit that enters.
The Name of God isnt spoken with the vocal cords it is spoken through the breath. And as long as the monkey mind is going there is no room for God to enter within with the holy spirit. Be still and know, that I AM God.
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@tangerinetangerine4400
2 months ago
I think religious events CAN produce genuine feeling of euphoria. But so can a concert. Or certain substances. It's not a proof of anything except that our brain has weird reaction to certain things. But yes, some people do fake it because it's expected of them.
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