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‼️One thing that is very important for understanding this is:
The charm is not mindcontrol, but instead calms the charmed one down and lets them forget about painfull and selfdestructive emotions and raises their loyalty to miquella due to him being some sort of messiah who forgives everyone and brings peace.
Reason 1:
Nothing ever defines or explains the charm as "mindcontrol". Ansbach only speaks of that miquella "shrives clean the heart of men" (shrive means to listen to someones confession and grand them forgiveness, mostly done by priests). He never says that the charm forces you to do anything.
Reason 2:
The npcs dont describe the charm as mind control once the spell broke.
They all dont make a huge fuss about as you would expect if they were used as puppets and instead talk as if they only regained their emotions about something negative and harmful.
Leda for example killed all other needle knights due to her not trusting others, but she didnt kill anyone once she was charmed. She says so herself that she trusted people more while she was charmed but now that the spell is broken begins to kill the others too.
She feels paranoia again.
morn was actually happy while he was charmed due to him forgetting the about pain he felt after being abondoned by marika. He finds a sort of new family in the companions of miquella, but he gets depressed once the charm broke.
He feels the pain again.
hornsent disliked the people of the lands between even while being charmed but still has a soft side which we can see if we give him the soup from his home. He gets filled with hate and revenge once the spell broke and tries to kill messmer and hates others again.
he feels the loss again.
Ansbach is sadend by the death of mohg, but still moves on for the greater good of others. He was feared soldiers in moghs army and killed countless innocent people, but acts now as a mentor for the other companions. He however remembers the guilt for failing his lord once the spell broke. His armor even tells us that there is no justice in killing miquella, but he still cant let go due to his feeling of guilt. he is even surprised if we help him and questions our senity, suggesting that it is unreasonable to go against miquella.
He feels the guilt of failing his lord again.
Reason 3:
It doesnt make sense for mohg to still follow his own goals if the charm realy was mindcontrol. Just as you pointed out.
Mohg clearly still follows his own ambitions. We know this because he talks about his own mohggwyn dynasty and not miquellas age of compassion, he also tries to share his blood with miquella, who rejects him ( based on mohgs remembrance). Mohg and his follower still believe that their own age will come and even claimed noble status in this new dynasty (based on the sanguine nooble set description). This new age is with 100% certainty not the age of compassion as this age they are talking is based on the outer god of the formless mother who has nothing to do with miquellas new age. The age of compassion is based on miquellas crown of light ( we know this from the item descrition)
However all begins to make sense if the spell is not mindcontroll as explained ealier.
Mohg kidnapped miquella for his own goal as he needed an empyrien to start his new dynasty. He tries to corrupt miquella with blood offerings as blood is the domain of the formless mother and mohg. This is also supported by mohg talisman description.
Miquella however is not helpless, he knew that mohg was planning to kidnapp him and used this oppertunity for his plan. Miquella needs a vessel for radahn and needs to acces the shadow lands as this is the place where the souls of the dead go (based on the tower description in the dlc) and where the gate of divinity is located. Mohg is the perfect oppertunity as he has both omenblood ,which would grand him acces to the shadow lands ( the land of the omen/ hornsent) and is a suitible vessel for his consort radahn. Miquella charmed mohg so that he wouldnt get suppiscous of him by suppressing the feelings of doubt and distrust so that he wouldnt intevine in his plan similar to ansbach who noticed and tried to kill miquella. mohg was oblivios to this as he is clearly still confinced that he will get his dynasty. This is the charm Ansbach talked about, mohg was unable to detect miquellas plan.
This being said, mohg is a huge piece of sht and not innocent in the slitest. He killed countless innocent people as sacrifices to the formless mother ( we can see these corpses scatered around Mohggwyn palast) heck even on his spear are dead people. He died due to his own hubris and greed. He deserved his fate.
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Everything up through kidnapping Miquella with the intention of making him a god of blood seems in keeping enough with Mogh's established MO. Kidnapping people and turning them to his side is something Mogh already did with other characters. But since there's no reference to the Formless Mother actually answering the kind of blood sacrifices made to Miquella's cocoon, and Miquella's power is emotional manipulation instead of straight mind control, I think that was Miquella's idea. He lied to Mogh by saying the ritual to remove his Grace to get into the Lands of Shadow was a ritual to ascend to godhood through the Formless Mother, and he literally cast Trust Me, Bro to stop Mogh from questioning it.
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@lovelycrimeboy8368
3 weeks ago
Miquella fulfilled his end of the bargain and DID make Mogh King-consort. Just not in the way Mogh expected.
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