Mona and Immi both have trans sons, and have had very different experiences.

But what they share is understanding the power of using the right language and pronouns.

Hear them tell @saima2264 about how they learned new language through the Internet, support groups, and learning from the experts: their sons.

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Subscribe and listen to this full episode, wherever you normally get your podcast. Or see the bio link in @outproudparents

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The Out and Proud Parents podcast was produced by Aunt Nell (@auntnell_) for Naz and Matt Foundation (@nazandmattfoundation) and made possible with support from The National Lottery Community Fund.

We'd like to thank all of the brave parents who have so kindly donated their time to appear on the podcast, and the hundreds of incredibly proud parents who have participated in #OutAndProudParentsDay over the last five years.

Proud parents who are helping to make the world a better, more accepting place to live.

Episodes will be released weekly starting 30th July.

This is episode 2.

Subscribe wherever you get your podcast.

The host is Saima Chishti.

The producer is @marnie.wm

The executive producer for @AuntNell is @tashwalker85

The executive producer for @nazandmattfoundation is @matthewogston

Music is by Vehaan Bhandari @treacle_macabre

Special thanks to Mona and Immi @sweekartherainbowparents @arunadesai2963 and Transmission Roundhouse Studios.

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Parents are incredibly brave humans who make our world a better, safer place to live. Thank you ❤️🏳️‍⚧️🙏🏳️‍🌈❤️

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